g00n77

sounds good...anything but pure red and pure blue

agreed.

if you liked offline spacebattles then online can only be better because the enemy is smarter.....in short, your wrong.

agreed

actually invasion is chaotic and it takes just as much skill as any other gametype if your up against a skilled team. i like other gamtypes too. it just so happens that alot of noobs play invasion and that annoys me. you say the DMR gives you lucky headshots yet in the months of nonstop reach that i have been playing it never happens. simple as that. it never happens...to me anyway. meyb you have some magic copy of reach that gives you lucky headshots idk (is lucky headshots a pre order bonus?). after months i think i would notice phantom headshots. i play alot of video games and i notice things. if i was getting headshots without aiming at the head i would notice. one thing i do notice is that if im not aiming at the head trigger spamming or not i never get headshots. you have repeated over and over that bloom ads too much luck without stating any facts or showing any real evidence. so untill you can your arguments are moot. i was explaining invasion to the gentleman because he asked. and yea i like invasion but you cant judge my skill based on that alone. i play all the gametypes even classic slayer. i have been playing halo games for ten years so i have the right to defend armor lock and spread as much as you have the right to hate on them. again you insult me which again indicates to me that you have nothing to back up your arguments...good day sir.

halcyon is the same class of ship as the POA from the beginning of halo1 and end of halo reach. marathon class vessels are the next stage in the evolution of the halcyon. the halcyon is outdated so they created the marathon class to replace it. btw payed is technically correct. payed is considered to be outdated but still works in that context. paid is the newer version of the word that is generally used now days...much like the halcyon being outdated and replaced with the marathon. payed is outdated and replaced with paid. but both are still valid in combat.

i find that a plasma pistol mixed with a jetpack and a little timing works wonders on the banshee....heres a tip...when you know they are going to steal your banshee let em....as the enemy gets inside the banshee hit him with a plasma pistol overcharge. he will stay stuck their in banshee spawn making him free for boarding. it works almost everytime for me and pisses people off. they think they just stole your banshee then ZAP! you board them and get a skyjack + a free banshee..

hmm...well microsoft will probably remake it in the reach engine anyway since there is such a high demand. they dont tend to turn down money. If you guys want a halo2 remake badly enough you will get it. all you have to do is show microsoft that you are willing to pay

yes reach has great connection for the most part...but somtimes you are matched with somone with a horrible internet connection. the lag seems to come in waves so it can effect things randomly. i have played some horrible matches. it all depends. i dont think any developers will be able to fully eliminate lag and the glitches assosiated with it for a long time. at least untill the technolgy of the internet improves to a certain point

sheilds and armour are different things. your sheild generator is independent from your armor lock generator. the armor lock module is located on the lower back of the spartan. the sheild generator is in the backpack thingy (i belive)

thanks for the facts mate. he has not even made any arguments as to why bloom promotes luck other then his unproven lucky headshot argument. and if you see me on invasion you better pray im on your team....or it might be a little frustrating getting pounded repeatedly =P

no im not saying reach is glitchy. im saying reach is a video game and no video game is without bugs. my snipershot didnt go up through into his head i practically hit him in the hand. it was probably lag, but w/e you post a random youtube video of a basement dweller and you act like thats hard evidence. look into the games netcode for that match from the video. if their are no errors then meyb you can blame bloom but it is still hardly proof. im not comparing FPS to RPG im comparing highly competitive games to other highly competitive games. many mechanics that work well in competitive games also work good in other games. halo has more rpg elements behind the scenes then you think. but not many. present better evidence instead of insulting me and calling me stupid. all that shows is that you have nothing better to add to your argument. you claim you get lucky DMR shots all the time but i play reach frequently and it never happens to me. however in halo3 thanks to its limited netcode i have hit people in the thigh/chest and got kills that i shouldnt have gotten. the mlg guy was pretty close he was ganna get that kill no matter what. bloom or no. It just happend to give him a headshot medal for reasons that you or i, do not, and cannot know. weather it was bloom, luck, a bug, or just plain lag we cannot say forsure without looking at the code from that match. reach has the occasional bug like any other game released since the first games in history that ever released. for example one time while returning my flag i got a black screen. after the black screen ended we realised that the flags had been switched. instead of returning my flag i waS now standing on the enemy flag. but that happend once and has never happend again. no game is perfect and if they waited untill all the bugs where gone before releasing the game then the game would never come out.

that is why the recoil is not as bad as it would be in real life. remember it is a futuristic armor pericing rifle desighned to peirce highly advanced alien armor and sheilds. an AK47 would tickle an elite at best. so the gun is ganna have more kick then your standard peashooter. bigger bullets equal more kick tin can armor or not. a standard untrained human would get his shoulder broken if he fired a DMR in excess. So a spartan would have at least a little recoil. its the future man. if armor is upgraded then the bullets will have to behave differently aswell

Voting No would imply that you hate bloom in all games. which is an option. voting yes means you dont mind bloom at all. the other options are for people with mixed feelings.

dont insult me...i have been playing longer then most. halo CE came with my origional xbox that we got close to launch. i fell in love the instant i saw the warthog for the first time. i played coop and deathmatch with my brothers for all hours of the night. we picked the xbox over the ps2 and we did not regret it even though we had nothing else but halo. even my brothers who only played FPS on pc only loved the game because it had that pc feel...halo is iconic but at the end of the day its a video game not somthing to kill eachother over. speaking as a ten year halo fan i say we are a community so we should act like one instead of fighting over stupid pointless crap like bloom.....bloom is such a small change yet people act like it changes the whole game. its pathetic. Dont lecture me about ten years of halo because i grew up with it. i purchased halo CE five times in my life. i purchased halo 2 three times. my first copy was stolen and the second copy broke. i have gotten the halo triple pack and i bought halo 3 twice after my first disk got cracked. along with odst and reach. i have contributed more to bungie and halo sales then most fans. so dont even go down that road. i have been playing halo since it began yet i love AL and bloom. that just goes to show that 343 cannot please everyone. The fanbase is simply to big and diverse. Halo is one of the most important franchises of all time sure. but its not worth losing our humanity over...grow up its only a video game. in ten years a franchise that is far better will come out and it will have the same impact as halo did. so even if halo was sucked into a vortex. their are other good game franchises in existance. some of them are as good as halo.

the singleplayer was far from perfect. it was missing levels and rushed. go back and play it, its not as fun as halo1 even on legendary. its also very glitchy. still good for the time (their was nothing better besides halo1) but halo2 is by far the worst in the series.

the singleplayer was far from perfect. it was missing levels and rushed. go back and play it, its not as fun as halo1 even on legendary. its also very glitchy. still good for the time (their was nothing better besides halo1) but halo2 is by far the worst in the series.

well your loss..like i said some of the best vehicle mechanic is a video game...

depends you might think its frustrating but i love it. its humans vs elites. one team defends and the other attacks. the first round is mostly tactical with small arms and sprint/evade. then once the attackers take one of the first two territories it opens up the map more and unlocks more AA's like armor lock and hologram. also more weapons spawn like rockets and snipers/focus rifle ect. usually a few smaller vehicles spawn as well. then after the attackers take one of the second set of bases even more loadouts and armor abilities unlock like jetpack and bubblesheild...also heavy weapons, and vehicles spawn, like the banshee. it can get frustrating when somone steals your banshee right as it spawns but this can be countered by defending the banshee. at this point in the match the attackers must capture the defenders navigation core and get it to their dropship. if the attackers can do this they win. if at any point during the match attackers run out of time then they lose. everyone in invasion has a buddy that they can spawn on as long as they are out of combat or out of the enemy base. use the dpad to choose a spawn the main theme of the gametype is to give you the experiance of an all out battle between spartans and elites. that is why it has such a heavy use of AA's, power wep's and vehicles. i think its realy fun but invasion is like anal. you will either love it or hate it. it is balanced for the most part but their are alot of quitters and thats what makes it frustrating (for me) but i guess halo in general has alot of quitters.... the only way to know if you will like it is to try it. it is chaotic. chaotic is the best word to describe it so it takes a skilled player in order to keep his cool on the heat of battle, but thats why i like it. its kinda like SP but with smarter elites (or dumber if your playing against nooblings) personally its my favorite gametype and is at least worth a try. but you may find it frustrating because in its later stages people can litterally spawn with shotguns or grenade launchers. luckiliy the maps are pretty open with multiple paths. my only advice is to watch your back and spawn your buddy. somone trying to spawn on you may give away your location so be carfull. its a very team based gametype because you have to work together to capture bases so it will be funner the more people you have in your party....im not sure how fun it is on splitscreen but its worth a try like i said. its a gametype that does not promote kills unless you are defending. so camping with the sniper rifle may not be the best tactic. when i play invasion i play halo music from all the games through my headphones for the maximum effect. its pretty intense

agreed...i think they are going to end up changing alot of playlist's before this debate ends. but they will never be satisfied. as long as they don't tamper with invasion lol (thats what im going to keep telling my self so i dont snap my reach disk LOL)

you hate vehicles??? halo reach has some of the best vehicles in any game. the physics are perfect and they react differently based on where they get shot. For example if you see somone charging a spartan lazer or about to fire a rocket and you cant dodge then all you have to do is make sure they hit the hogs armor plate. depending on where you eat the rocket you can not only survive but make it out with nothing but a small dent... their is nothing funner then driving a warthog when you are good at it. you and the warthog are one and you can manipulate those four wheels like four limbs. you can also use the terrain to your liking. i have made my warthog ramp like crazy off the smallest of jumps just because i hit it in such a way. and dont even get me started on the banshee...the banshee is just tooo awesome. reach has some awesome physics i must say.

well im not sure about black ops i meant MW2. as far as the toe shot thing you could just lower movment speed of the player untill they either bleed out or get medicals. the game already has a last stad mechanic so it would fit. as far as halo goes i want destructable armor. if you chop off somones arm with an energy sword and they escape they can survive. they have to either A: get a robo arm like kat. or B: reclaim their arm before they bleed to death in order to get it fused back on to their armor. medpacks will only keep you going for a time when u lose limbs not heal the limb itself. when a spartan loses his leg he will have to lay there with his pistol out untill he either bleeds out or is finished. legs would not be replacable. and as far as the armor your armor will degrade as it is damaged. to the point that if your sheild generator takes too many hits you could end up with a wonkey sheild or no sheilds at all. other armor parts could have different effects on the player.....imagine shooting somone in the back permanently disabling their armour ability untill they either respawn or pick up a new one. or if your visor takes hits it could get cracked like on the level lone wolf. or even glitch your hud. imagine when you get stuck in the helmet with a plasma grenade if you think fast you would be able to remove your helmet and throw it at the enemy. this would cause you to have no head protection however, making you extremly weak to headshots at least untill you steal a new helmet. the possiblilities are endless......but that is another thread worth of ideas lol

i was so quick to insult because one: i had a bad day (im sure you can relate) and two: you implied that i was making unfair polls left and right when i only made one. sorry about the insults. the purpose of this thread was to create healthy discussion not flame wars. insults only add to the flaming so my bad. i will lighten up if you will too. deal? =P

i might redo the poll then or just add another poll under it with that option only. what do you think?

agreed....but it will work....like i said it worked fine in the beta....so i dont see why it would not work now.