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From the beta gameplay video, it looks like a mix between a concussion rifle, rockets, and a spartan laser to me. One shot kill if you shoot it in close proximity to the enemy but you have to charge it first.

I haven't heard anything on if they're gonna be in. I wouldn't mind destructible environments but not if it takes away from the game.

I would love to pre order from best buy but there's not one in my area and it costs $8 extra to have it arrive at your home on release day.

These things are included but give it a chance first. We don't even know what's in store and Frank O Connor said it's not like CoD. I'm trusting 343 to do the right thing and I hope you do too.

It's on wal mart's website that the circuit skin is included but they have no pictures up. Makes no sense, I know.

Good creativity! I think this could be a fun thing to do. It would be exciting for both teams!

I also noticed at 2:05 that the multi kill emblems may have timers on them? Hard to tell but that would be a good idea. Saw this comment off the same website that video is on. Pretty helpful. @2:05 First person spectating? @3:05 Railgun in action @4:48 Magnum in action @6:50 Rocket launcher picked up, smoke effect after shooting @7:00 Ordnance weapon drop selection screen @8:25 Forerunner vision @9:05 Assassination @9:30 What is that shield?

Well eff, it says you have to pay $8 for express shipping if you want it by release day. I guess I'll stick with good ole gamestop.

I totally would if it was guaranteed to arrive at my house on the release date, which wouldn't be a guarantee if I ordered it online. Boooo.

As long as no vehicle is dominant I'll be good with whatever! Ex. The banshee on Valhalla in Halo 3, or the tank.

If there was a best buy in my area I would pre order from there just for the raptor skin! Thing is NASTY!

I don't see a picture but if it can beat the best buy raptor skin I might have to pre order from there!

Agreed lol. Reach was the worst Halo and took the franchise about 10 steps back in my opinion. I also used to think Halo 4 was starting to sound like CoD early on but it'll be it's own game like it always has been. No worries.

I like the Halo 3 map choice system where you can veto and it takes more than 50% of the party to give another choice. Not much on the Reach map choice system because the top map always wins if half the voters vote for it! I would enjoy a 1v1 playlist but host plays too big of a role in 1v1's in my opinion. I think 343 will get it right with the map choice system and I also think they'll be great with forge. The Reach maps were a huge disappointment (along with other aspects of the game) and everybody knows it. It looks like 343 wants this to be the most highly customizable and personal Halo experience ever so there's no reason why they wouldn't apply the same principles to forge.

I'm glad somebody released some gameplay but it would help if they had some better quality video and some audio to go along with the gameplay instead of somebody doing a terrible and loud freestyle rap lol. The game definitely looks promising and good. I was sort of skeptical about forerunner vision but now I think it can and will be used to eliminate camping and initiate more battles.

Without Halo, MLG wouldn't be here today. Period. Hopefully they'll bring Halo 4 back on.

I hope, and think they will, have a lot of customization options for emblems on Halo 4. I had a SICK Halo 2 symbol and there was no option to make it in 3 or Reach.

I can agree that wins and losses shouldn't tell the whole story. It's not good to do terrible but you might bring things to the table that other players don't have that would give you guys the win (calling out, being a good teammate, map knowledge, etc.). The problem is that those things can't be measured by statistics, only by wins and losses. On the other side you could be the best teammate in the world, call out, have the best KD, have the most map knowledge, stomp everybody's lights out, and still lose. Still happens to me a LOT. I get what you're saying and I agree that wins and losses should still be a big part of the system.

Even KD doesn't tell the whole story sometimes. There's other things involved like being a good teammate, map knowledge, other intangibles etc. that can't be measured by any statistic. A win-go-up-lose-go-down system is the best thing to offer in my opinion. The number rank system of Halo 2 was perfect. Ranking up was difficult at times, but not unattainable.

That's true too and that's why it won't be a big deal for Halo 4 not to include dual-wielding.

In Halo 2 and 3 you couldn't dual wield more medium/long-range weapons like that so if they had dual-wielding I don't think it would be a problem. I loved dual-wielding in both Halo 2 and 3. The combinations of weapons brought a different element to the game and made it a lot of fun. I don't think it takes away from the game if dual-wielding isn't included but it would DEFINITELY be a big positive if it was!

^^^ This They never said they would but never said they wouldn't either. But from the sounds of it I doubt they will. I hope they do have a beta because it would give the public an idea of what to expect for the game and the public has been on its toes for every little detail on Halo 4 for a while. A beta would be good for giving people an idea of what to expect and since this is possibly the most highly anticipated Halo with the change of direction and everything, I think it would be good. I trust 343 to do the right thing so beta or no beta, I'm good, but that's just my opinion.

Agreed. As long as they have a system that includes credits for the long term ranks (forerunner, inheriter, etc.) AND wins for playlist ranks (1-50 or some other numerical system) that'll be awesome.

I can't answer your question but Halo 2 was a LOT of fun when I played it on PC. I don't see any harm in a PC release but I think the Halo franchise is just really tight with Xbox so they don't wanna share for some reason? They like keeping it console exclusive. Getcha an Xbox 360 and play up with us man!

I think there's going to be a Halo 3 style system with credits AND a win-to-rank-up type of system. 343 will do it right because too much of the community has disagreed with the whole Halo Reach ranking system.