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Hey everyone, The OP here. I really appreciate everyone taking the time out to voice their opinion on this subject. Do I think it's going to make a difference? Quite frankly, NO. I've been arguing that we need to bring these two maps back or give us some new ones for SWAT on this board and over on the HALO xbox boards for months now. 343 gave us SWAT players the finger, and you know what, I'm giving it right back to them. F'm. I used to be a 3-4 times a week SWAT player, but after the update that removed those two maps and left us with far fewer map choices, I've played just a handful of times, and probably not even once in the last month or so. So keep up the good fight! I don't know if it will do any good, but 343 you have lost me a customer.

Hey fzdw11 my apologies for not getting back to you sooner it's been a busy last few days. I did happen to look at your profile and saw that you are located in PA? Where are you from? I was born in NJ and then when I was 15, my family and I moved to a suburb of Reading, PA and to this day my parents still live there. I went to Penn State way back when and have lived on the other side of the state near Pittsburgh a few times as well. But I'm in NC right now where the weather is a lot better LOL! Now onto your questions. Quite honestly I don't think I played any sort of map the "most" it was all a good mix for me. Sure I loved Pinnacle and Uncaged, and voted for them often. I generally had good games on Pinnacle and Uncaged, so of course I voted for them often. Quite honestly I never ever voted once based on "oh I'm getting spawned red or blue", I just liked those maps. Sword Base and Countdown are pretty fun as well. For the average game player, spawning on red or blue on ANY map is just not a big deal. Each and every Swat map has it's quirks and problems. Pinnacle and Uncaged were no different than say Asylum, which is a spawn killing hell map. Why did they remove those two maps and not Asylum? Or Powerhouse and Boardwalk, which to me is the WORST board for Swat because it plays so slow. Removing those maps, and then especially giving us nothing in return, make no sense at all. I totally and most definitely disagree with this statement above! I had no idea that Halo Reach was even updated every month. NONE! I bet the majority of the people that play Halo don't even know that it gets updated monthly. Where was some sort of warning page that 343I could have inserted into the map selection process saying something like "hey we are getting ready to adjust the playlist....tell us what you think!" There was nothing. In fact, when those maps were removed, there was even no warning that they were gone, all us Swat players were just left to wonder where the heck those maps went! To me that is HORRIBLE customer service. I disagree yet again, I don't think 343I thought this out all the way through. So let's see their though process: 1. We decide to remove 2 very popular maps. We did this based on, well I'm not sure. People whining about those two maps? They were surely enjoyed by a majority of the players because they were chosen over and over again! 2. We won't replace these maps with anything. 3. Swat becomes somehow better with less map choices? Playing the same two maps over and over again is fun? So few map choices will bring more players to Swat? Since it seems you supported removing these two maps, I'd love to hear from you how you think Swat is now better with these two maps gone and none to replace them. I play Swat almost exclusively and I can tell you for a fact it is now super-repetitive to be playing Reflection and Asylum over and over again. How is removing two maps and replacing them with nothing a good idea? I'd love to hear your thoughts on this because to me it makes no sense! One thing we CAN agree on is that Swat NEEDS MORE MAPS!!!!

Hey fzdw11 thank you for your feedback I will respond back to you tomorrow. It's getting late and I'm bushed. For everyone else, there is a thread on halo waypoint requesting that Swat be updated. The link is: http://halo.xbox.com/Forums/yaf_postst80526_Halo-Reach-SWAT-needs-to-be-updated.aspx If everyone that reads this thread can go over to the link above and comment, it will allow 343I to really hear from the general Swat community. Thanks in advance!

^^^^^^ THIS 343 Industries where are our the new maps for Swat? You removed two very popular maps last month and replaced them with nothing. WE NEED NEW MAPS!!

So what you are saying is that a small but vocal minority complained loud enough to get these maps removed? Even though these maps were popular during the voting selection? As well as these maps were removed without any forewarning of the general Swat community? And the worst is that these maps were replaced with well ummmm.......nothing? How is that fair? These maps were enjoyed by the majority of Swat players! How do I know that you ask? Because they were chosen time and time again during the map selection process!!! That's all that should matter, no small minority should override the wishes of the majority. People liked these maps and removing them without any adequate notification is just wrong. Period. Great please I've been looking for someone that supports removing these two maps. Please explain to me how you think that removing two maps from a very limited map selection process makes the Swat game better? And may I ask are you a hard-core Swat person? That's pretty much the only thing I play in Reach, so playing the same two maps (Reflection and Asylum) gets old very quick. I used to play 4-5 times a week, and now? I've played once I think in a month. Swat no longer has any interest for me playing the same stupid maps over and over again. If you are a hard-core Swat player, you will know that 2 fewer maps makes the game become very repetitive very quickly. We need those maps back (easiest option) or new ones to replace them. Or something because I for one have lost all interest in fighting over the hall in Reflection or getting spawn killed continuously in Asylum.

Hi fzdw11 I have a tendency to agree with that. BUT it never hurts to make your voice heard. Hey maybe 343 Industries will get a clue and give us these maps back or some cool new ones! It never hurts to try right!

^^^^^ THIS!!!!! 343 Industries are you listening to your current customer base?

So Azaxx you'd rather have like 4-5 map choices and play the same game over and over again? Doesn't that get boring quick? I'd rather have those maps than not. I'd like some new ones too! Yeah I know I'm asking a lot!

Where are the new maps for Team Swat? So we are stuck playing the very few selections again? WTF???????

Dude you and me both! I'm so sick of playing game after game of Asylum or Reflection I just want to break my Halo disc every time I see those two choices popup! :thumbdown:

Hi Ruffcutt thanks for your input I feel the same exact way, so I created that thread above that fzdw11 quoted. Also, there is a thread on this subject on the halo waypoint site, specifically here: http://halo.xbox.com/Forums/yaf_postst69428_Pinnicle-and-Cage-removed-from-swat.aspx You might want to voice your opinion there and thanks for your feedback!

Okapi I cannot agree with you more! Because I'm bored to death with Swat now, I've played like once in 3 weeks and that's it. I used to play 4-5 times a week, but I just can't pick the controller up and face yet another game of Reflection or Asylum. I played the night before and played 7 games: 3 reflections, 2 Asylums, 1 Sword Base, and 1 Boardwalk magnums (yeah that was horrible). 343 Industries we need some proper map choices!

My thoughts exactly......either those problems with the spawn points should have been fixed or some new maps added! We need more Swat choices, not less!

Thank you Pirat1690.........my thoughts exactly! I can only take so much Reflection, after about the 5th game of it in a row I feel like throwing my XBOX out the window!!!!!!!!! Please 343 Industries give us those maps back or new ones to replace those maps. We are all eagerly awaiting the May update!

I've already done that!