Shiv Kite

I hate to be a negative nigel or even I dare say a pooey pete...but.... 99.999999% of the time a team of 4 legit 50s will DESTROY a team of 4 legit 10s. Do you guys just want a non-skill based Reach-esque system involving time spent online rather than actual effort to reach the top?

I have never encountered that situation in my entire Halo 3 career which contained roughly 7 or 8 thousand games. Never. You sir, are talking out of your anus. A skill system means more than you think...If you are 45 for example in team slayer, you will have a difficult game with people of similar skill considering it gets difficult for the majority to get past high thirties. It's not all about 'bragging rights'

Weapons dropping in care packages, create a class and possibly no skill based rank system? The end is (possibly) nigh for anyone who wants to see a return to the Halo 3 style re-vamped.

You fail to mention the element of progression from 1 to 50 which was the most important part of the Halo 3 ranking system in my opinion. Yes we got EXP, yes I am glad it is making a return, but there is no talk about any number based rank system at all. I guess we will have to wait and see what information is released in the following weeks.

Sounds like the arbiter lol

I hope you are right bulletstorm, but to me, upon reading that article, it seems like a reach-like system will be implemented rather than a halo 3 one...

pfffft, halo 3 won't go offline until months after the release of the "720". Stop being a pooey pete.

Oh jesus no http://www.technologyworldnews.net/more-halo-4-multiplayer-details-new-armor-abilities-ranking-system-game-modes-and-more/ "343 Industries has developed a new ranking system for Halo 4′s multiplayer. Players will earn what developers are calling “Spartan Points” upon each rank up. Ranking up is achieved through gaining experience."

I completely agree. Halo4 needs a ranked option as well as a social option. Without it, there is no incentive to win.

IMO It is a very important topic, which will dictate how I spend my gaming time in the next few years therefore needing multiple threads in order for the message to become clear. I really don't want to have to go back to Halo 3 after a few months of Halo 4.

Whatever man. I just want to explain MY point of view. I'm sure more people are on my side than whatever yours is.

One main reason Halo 3 was so much fun to ME was due to the ability to either play social or ranked. If I wanted to play split screen with my friend and **** around, great, I can do social. Winning in social didn't mean anything really, losing...meh, "It's just social" Now. Ranked is a whole other story. If I lose in ranked I swear, punch my seat, curse the enemy team etc etc etc. If I win it feels great and gets stressful (in a good way) trying to obtain your highest rank. This is what makes Halo, HALO. Ranked games are what seperates halo from CoD. If 343 has the same type of playlists as Reach, ALOT of people are going to be pissed. I will be seriously disappointed due to the fact that winning means nothing in social. I remember in Halo 3 RANKED TEAM SLAYER whenever the score was 45-40 and you were losing, everyone was franticly calling out, avoiding death, getting focused, pumped and genuine adrenaline was flowing. My heart was beating fast and everyone WANTED to win. That is what halo is all about and if you (343) fail to include ranked you WILL lose so many fans of the series. In Reach...NO ONE gave a wet poop about call outs at all. Why? because all meaning was stripped away with the only option being social. You may think you are being clever by adding all these new things and changing the franchise, but if you don't have ranked, multiplayer will be BORING. regardless of how good the online gameplay is. Long term competitive players (the REAL fans) will lose interest, like I did with Reach. In reach you couldn't play with people of your own skill level, just like call of duty. So...do the right thing 343. You still have 6 months to do 1 simple thing that will make A LOT of people happy. Dont **** it up. peace.

a ranking system 1-50 no jet packs or AA a return to halo 2 and 3's style and less of reach make halo 4, HALO, not a reach/COD hybrid