SatanicBagels

Since the very second that 343industries released details about Halo 4 people have been skeptical (and that's not a bad thing) of the new changes that have been made to their beloved franchise. I have not seen many well founded opinions from either side of the argument so I am just going to make this thread here and add my two cents as to why both styles of threads are incredibly wrong. I'll address the Halo 4 side of the argument first. Many people have posted comments since last year about how 343industries isn't borrowing stuff from COD and sometimes even post stuff like "CoD copied from Wolfenstien" which contribute absolutely nothing to the discussion. The truth is that, and I say this as a serious Halo fan, Halo 4 has borrowed many gameplay elements which are CLEARLY inspired by their success in the COD franchise... and why is that such a bad thing. You see, 343industries realized that a little revitalization was in order to surge the Halo franchise to new levels of success. These changes are not going to be for everybody however and if you find yourself disliking them then that's very unfortunate. And now in response to the people who claim to dislike Halo 4 just because of some of the newer changes. I can guarantee you with utmost certainty that just because a game incorporated killcams into its multiplayer it will not play exactly the same as COD. Same with join in progress. The ideas for faster kill times and loadouts are a little bit more debatable though. Personally I think that they can play out fine and completely differently if done correctly. Just my two cents.

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You literally contribute nothing to this forum (why are you here)... I swear you post another one of these obvious troll threads everyday. If you hate Halo 4 that much then I can understand that you want someplace to rant about how you dislike a game... but this far after launch it's getting kind of pathetic.

Sounds like less of a forging block and more of a perfectionist attitude.

I have no idea if it is or not but you gotta understand that 343industries may love making video games... but their primary reason for existence is to make a profit. So if they didn't think the rewards of taking this idea to Europe and Oceania were worth what it may cost then they likely didn't do it.

I always though Valhalla was a larger map. Also I want to try not to add to any cynicism you might have about 343industries but the people that say they are made up largely of former Bungie employees are usually either misinformed or lying, but either way incorrect. I believe there was like 3 former Bungie employees. Granted one of them is Frank O'Connor who is sometimes considered the most influential person to ever put his touch on the Halo franchise, and the others are basically a game development dream team (which I lack the expertise to discern whether it is true). Either way props to you for coming on here and posting your thoughts so calmly and rationally. It seems to be a rare quality in these trying ages of the forum (lol).

I'm so serious right now. I've heard both good things about it as well as bad things and I'm just curious as to what others think of it in regards to Campaign, Zombies, and Multiplayer. Please don't turn this into a Halo vs. CoD thread as those threads are pointless. Yes I am a Halo fan that likes CoD (except original BO)... Is that so unbelievable?

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People who dislike something are 10 times more likely to go out and post negative viewpoints about something than someone who enjoyed it... It's why if you go to a really good place to eat the place will sometimes have bad reviews. It's harder to attract people to post good opinions.

I assume that that is what you are talking about.

I was going to post the Star Spangled Banner lyrics here but the site won't let me.

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Not everything can get found before release. If it did then glitches wouldn't exist. While this would obviously be frustrating for obvious reasons look for it to be fixed in the future.

There is a playlist update coming later this week... Look for SWAT to be in it. It's kind of like in Reach where SWAT wasn't a playlist at release. I don't know the logic for doing it that way.

I'm 100% certain that Microsoft didn't send you here. Maybe somewhere else but not here.

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If people are managing to get through the entire campaign and not understand what is going on then that represents a serious storytelling problem. I haven't played campaign yet so I wouldn't know, but if someone doesn't know what's going on at the end then that's a major fault on 343i.

Welcome to the forums Mortal Wombat Nice name BTW.

Wait is this serious???

If duplicate threads didn't exist in forums then they would die out after 1 week. The obvious real problem here is that people can't stand to see someone who doesn't like Halo 4 so they immediately dismiss them as stupid, wrong, or a noob. Plus this is a losing battle for you guys. In a sense this thread here is contributing far less than those so called "Hate threads"... but you don't see me telling the OP to stop. Why? Because there's no reason to.