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Hey OP add me and invite me, i'm not much of a forger but if you want to play test it then i'm more than willing to play some custom games with you

I'm up for playing on it, add my GT - 'Alarmed Penguin' and invite me if i'm online when you have a party set up ready to play

I figured that we'd probably see if all bullets connected, it'd be a 4 shot kill, but if they were far away enough that a bullet or two would miss due to the spread, it would be 5 shot, to balance it against the DMR which would be more effective at distance.

I concede. I think this thread has run its course now anyway, i won't continue to post in it.

Come on dude, that guy was taking the piss and you know it, i took the piss in return but for some reason I'm a **** and he's not? I expressed my opinion politely, then when i heard your argument i respectfully agreed with it, and in return i got that guy being rude and you acting superior and condescending - it's very frustrating. No, that's not me in my picture, your puny human mind wouldn't be able to comprehend my physical form.

[sorry, i doubled posted so i'm editing the first one out]

I was being polite and respectful to everyone ITT until he got insulting for no reason. Do you really think that isn't him in his photo? Or are you just being a contrarian *******? Probably the latter.

Judging by how much of a ****** you look in your photo, you should probably stay inside and get less fresh air. Do nothing new, nothing exciting, nothing 'worth talking' to avoid subjecting unsuspecting members of the public to that god awful shirt and your embarrassing 'swag'.

I think in hindsight i guess i should 'let go' of the older versions of Halo and try to embrace the newer features. I guess i've invested so much time/money/(emotion, dare i say) into Halo 1, 2 and 3 that it can be difficult to accept change. If anything, my friends that hated playing Halo 3 now enjoy playing Halo: Reach and that can only be a good thing. At least there is MLG which is stripped back to basics, just how i like it!

I think it looks awesome. i was sceptical as to how they would integrate bullet time into the multiplayer but the way they have done it is simple and elegant and looks like great fun to play. I'll be getting it as soon as I can.

The map voting in most playlists has led to a situation where people only ever want to play the maps they like. Team Slayer is dominated by Swordbase, Snipers by Hemorrhage and Swat by Asylum and Reflection. Obviously map voting is democratic and not many people would want to change it, but i think i would prefer it if they had a fixed map rotation akin to the one in Gears. A quick note on bloom - i don't know if it's just me but sometimes you can get really unlucky with bloom, hit someone 7 or 8 times in the head and it not register, this kinda thing gets frustrating, but overall i like bloom.

Thank you for your detailed and thought out response, you claim to try to avoid hostility but the tone of your post suggests otherwise, oh well. I thought i made it clear that i'm just articulating my initial thoughts on the updates. I don't see how saying "I hope 343 make the maps fun to play because some of the previous maps aren't in my opinion" is in any way suggesting that i am offering an accurate critique or that i think i am qualified to do so, it's just my initial reaction to reading the updates, as a humble fan of the series and to be honest i think i made that quite clear. I don't think i criticised the game, just outlined what i hope the game isn't. If it's possible to delete your own threads then i will do so if this results in a flame war.

I get that this topic has probably been made hundreds of times already, so don't read if you don't want, but i just want to air a few things that worry me about some of the multiplayer updates and why. I'm sure a lot of people share my fears. 1. Loadouts are primary weapon, secondary weapon, grenade type, armour ability and TWO more slots for modifications. Confirmed so far are quicker regeneration and more ammunition. I'll refrain from using the word 'perks' but 343 have to be careful here, with the clear COD comparison which is bound to alienate some 'hardcore' halo fans, there is also the risk of unbalancing the multiplayer. I have confidence in 343 but still. 2. Sprint now default ability, so sprint + 1 other armour ability allowed. Has a usage meter and slow down mechanic when getting shot. This worries me a lot, everybody being able to use an armour ability is my worst nightmare. Imagine EVERYONE in the game using jetpack, hologram or camo. It will exacerbate the 'randomness' of the gameplay already present in Reach. By this i mean, in the previous Halo games, skill was everything. If you were better than someone, you could dominate them, which made the game so much more rewarding for players who put the time and effort in to perfect their shooting. With Reach, any old idiot can ruin your day by armour locking, or jetpacking out of nowhere. I really feel that this detracted from the skill-based gameplay that made the previous Halo games so great to continue playing - you felt as if you were getting better every day and were being rewarded for it. You can see how armour abilities and the like make Halo more accessible to new players, but as a player who's been working hard to perfect his BR since the Halo 2 days, the unpredictable gameplay in Reach is incredibly annoying, and it sounds like it's more of the same in Halo 4. 3. New progression system with Spartan Points. Slowly unlock weapons, abilities and modifications for loadouts. Multiplayer AND Spartan Ops use same custom character. It's quite obvious which game springs to mind here. In the teaser videos a lot was made of 'analysing trends in the gaming industry' and using these to bring to gamers what they want in Halo 4. The only real trendsetter i can see Halo drawing from is COD, but that's been said a million times so i'll leave that. Still - following trends is not necessarily following what people want. Some people hate the trends that COD are setting. 4. Warhouse and Wraparound multiplayer maps This opinion is hugely subjective, but i'll share it anyway. Maps that have too much of a bottom-to-top flow of gameplay become boring to play. These maps seem like they have a lot of levels, which can sometimes lead to one team patrolling a certain area at the top while one team spawns at the bottom and runs up. (Reflection, Sword Base, etc.) I hope 343 can avoid such routine and monotonous gameplay in Halo 4. If you read this far, thanks a lot and i'm interested to hear if you think i'm talking crap or if you agree, but please don't flame me for re-posting an old topic, i just wanted to give my two cents.