I agree in part with both sides of the argument. I enjoy playing old school halo without all the new stuff but I equally enjoy the new stuff. Infinity slayer has the tendency to piss me off with all the power weapons going around, that is however personal preference. What is probably best for the game is to stop feeling like a beta. I do mean that, to me halo 4 feels more like a beta than a finished game. No file-share ( as of yet), some balancing issues, map design (they are lacking so don't go into it), and so on. If they had launched halo 4 as a beta I would have felt better about all the issues but they chose to say they were done and fix it as they went. More to the point I am trying to make is that a classic playlist would be nice. Somewhere I don't have all the new stuff and I can just play. Another playlist I would love to see is a variant of infinity slayer without ordinance or at least specified ordinance. So people stop hating on each other we all enjoy different parts of the game, doesn't mean we are the majority. To op, grow up. I enjoy the old halo's but your not the be all end all in your opinion. Everyone else, you grow up to. Make points based on an unbiased opinion and try to see all sides of the argument. I mean no offense to anyone but try to be objective, we really don't need this to turn into the waypoint forums, just constant hating on one an other.