Caboose The Ace

Cool story bro.

I vote Axilus so we can finish off another mafian! Edit Votes: Axilus 4.5 Delpen 2

I'm sorry but there is nothing I or anyone else here can do for you. You see Xbox live support is made up of stupid people who don't even know what the official 343 site is. This isn't the official 343 site, this is a community forum, made by the community and run by it. So no 343 staff roam here. Try the official Halo site, Halo waypoint and maybe you can get your problems solved. Best of luck!

Banned because this thread must not die!

^ Halo Reach pretty much fixed all the problems with Elites anyway..... Halo 5 should and needs to have Elites back.

^ Hardly it looks like advanced warfare with zombies.... Same old Cod but you can jump higher.

Well crap.... At least we know Delpen is a mafia for sure.

Banned because I think it would be best.... for all of us.

Banned because *Reason removed*

Can I point out you put Halo V follower and Keko in the same section. They are two separate candidates..... THIS ELECTION IS RIGGED I TELL YOU!

H5f. That was a quote I got from Bungie.net. Not my fault it was spelt bad for once. Anyway back to replying. So your point was, headshoting from the rear is possible with an Elite? Oh, then in that case it is correct. It is harder than a Spartan mainly because of the hitbox problem, the Elite heads moving slightly when shot and because their head is sorta hunched up. But still, it is possible, just more tricky. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3lmgEuRoUlo How about a good ol Halo 3 headshot montage cheer us up?

^ Yes, but what if it was?

Banned because he did not!

Okay this first quote was put in for some comic relief but the second has merit, no? ^ "The models are different, but the hit boxes are the same. Stand the SPARTAN in front of the Elite, and you will see the Elite is taller. However, the boxes, will be the same. Shoot a SPARTAN in the elbow from the front, and it will hurt him. Shoot an Elite in the elbow from the front, it will go right threw" I think that pretty much blows your arguments out the water? Twin a modder who has ripped open the code that makes up Halo 3 says is true. P34nut a pro player says its true. The majority of the community says it is true. and what is true? The Elite hitboxes are the same as Spartans and do no account for the taller height the Elites have. So the Elite hit boxes are broken. There is no argument for that in defence of Bungie. I could direct you to hundreds of threads complaining about broken hit boxes. But there are few quotes apart from yours that say the hit boxes are fine and Elites are easier to headshot. And answer me this, how is making maps for the Halo 2 Pc community a bad thing? Anyway, back to the task at hand. Here are some more quotes. "Elites are in fact harder to headshot from behind because their heads are not on top of their bodies." "Elites have a spot in their neck you can shoot through and its really annoying" "Hitboxes are the same, its just that it is harder to hit them due to the fact you aim for the head...which you cant see." Here is something from Halo Nation "In Halo 3, the neck of an Elite (regardless what Armor Permutation used) is completely immune to any form of damage except for a shot from a charged Plasma Pistol. In addition, the projectile will simply pass through the neck, as though the neck wasn't there, without a blood spatter. This is because both Elites and Spartans share the same hitbox (where you can hit the character), but have different models." Okay enough of quotes, it was confirmed by Bungie that Spartans and Elites share the same hitbox and because they do are broken in a Bungie weekly update, I cannot remember what update it was sadly. Here is a quote from Halo Nation that may shed some light on that "It was once thought that Armor Permutations affected a player's hitbox; the contrary has been proven and stated by Bungie in numerous Bungie.net Weekly Updates. Sangheili and Spartan IIs use the same hitbox in Multiplayer, explaining the Sangheili Neck Glitch." And final here is a video proving my point that the Hitboxes are broken in Halo 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=87tf9AtR_mY#t=146

^ ^ ^ Let me clear a few things up.... 1 That isn't what Twin is. Granted I have limited knowledge of what he does but what he does isn't what you think he is doing. He isn't that guy who changes a Battle rifles code that is shoot rockets instead of bullets.... Twin makes maps for Halo 2 Pc among other things. http://www.343industries.org/forum/topic/39662-halo-2-pc-add-on-twintacular-map-pack/?view=findpost&p=356720 You said how that Elite hitboxes are broken and you can show Twin. Twin said the opposite. As of that both of your argument's are legit. And as Ps4nut said, being 40 does not mean you are an amazing player. I have met 50's who suck and level 5s who don't. It depends on the actual player not the rank. But what Twin has that you don't is evidence..... 1 P34nut agrees with Twin he is a Pro player. 2 Twin is has been " modding/decompiling/reversing Halo games since 2002." So that means Twin has looked at the code of Halo 2/3 itself and see evidence the hit boxes are broken. Can I point out that everyone here disagrees with you?! Maybe you are just wrong. I mean look at this quote from someone from Bungie.net "Hit boxes is broken elites are nubs lolololo well if hit boxes are broke i must be pretty damn good to make it to level 42 gimped like this" Here is another quote "The models are different, but the hit boxes are the same. Stand the SPARTAN in front of the Elite, and you will see the Elite is taller. However, the boxes, will be the same. Shoot a SPARTAN in the elbow from the front, and it will hurt him. Shoot an Elite in the elbow from the front, it will go right threw" That's the point. The hitboxes are the same for Elites and Spartans in Halo 3/H2. They don't adjust to fit the Elites height. Even Bungie themselves confirmed it....

Wait it was Pb?! *Sigh* Whatever it looks like Pb is going to die anyway.... Caboose The Ace 2.5 Constantine The Great (Pbrabbit) 6.5 Church Axilus Prime 4

*Sigh* A real miscommunication or what? I vote for Phabbit to create an rng as the votes shall round up to four. NOBODY CHANGE ANYTHING! Caboose The Ace 2.5 Constantine The Great (Pbrabbit) 4.5 Church Axilus Prime 4

*Yoshi's reaction to seeing the votes change in favour of lynching Axilus*

A few things we need to chat about then. 1 This is a Community forum ( Yes, I know this site has a really misleading title ) This site is run by and made by fans of the series. So no 343 employees are here, as far as we know..... 2 I know 343 will not give you the free Odst remaster. I know they will not because you are not the first who has tried to do this and, failed. Its harsh but that's the reality of it. Sadly you will have to pay for the Odst remaster.

May3m how are we supposed to defeat mafians if you are voting for the lulz? What happen if your lulz vote was the one that decided an Pro town member got killed?! Also Church, what is the evidence that Axilus is more likely to be mafian? Caboose The Ace 2.5 Constantine The Great (Pbrabbit) 3.5 Church Axilus Prime 4 I change my vote to Axilus anyway as if what Church says is true, Axilus is the best chance we have....

Armour effects were there for one reason, customisation. and more customisation is always fine with me.

^ Sadly neither you or Axilus are more creditable that each other, so its quite literally guessing, I say we end this be RNG if anyone is up for it?