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Not true major companies pay people to search the internet for honest reviews about their product all the time.....trust me 343 is reading all of the reviews online as this was a major release.

Either you havent played H4 or you have no idea what you are talking about friendly fire is on in only a few select game types. You claim there are no balance issues? The DMR will own any weapon except the sniper. Even then the DMR range is so long and the fire is so rapid I often take a sniper out with no problem. I dont even bother with a sniper now because its too slow compared to the BMR.

Agree with what 343 did with CE and all the hype of H4 I couldnt wait so picked it up along with the map pass thats close to $100 for a game that just did not deliver in any respect what so ever. Those who claim the graphics are great clearly have little understanding of the core elements of quality graphics.

Here is the thing about so called expert industry reviews they are nothing but a source of paid advertisement nothing more. They are there to move games nothing more, the real reviews are online written and posted by people who have actual played. Look around online there is a huge backlash against 343 and H4 but yet all the so called experts gave it a 9 or higher.....talk about total BS

Have you seen the graphics or lack there of? Have you played campaign? Pride? They should be ashamed with graphic quality alone.

All the boards are being loaded down with valid complaints about H4 and for good reason. Give it some time and everyone will see this game for what it really is. I honestly dont think 343 will recover from this as a company. Id suggest you merge and pin the threads because they are not going to stop anytime soon as more and more people actually play the game.

No faults sure...LOL matchmaking is a giant train wreck right now. H3 had a real ranking Reach destroyed that and H4 just gives rank away likes its candy. A teammate can destroy your vehicle but you cant boot him because friendly fire is off. The DMR is so overpowered its pretty much a sniper rifle now.

I hope so because its insane how the ranking system is now, something just feels off as im getting nothing but head shots and I know im not. Or every game I get a good 8-10 assists. Its like they are just giving points away now. Again please give some examples of why its such a great game compared to Reach or H3. If its such a great game there should be a huge list of reasons why.

You can try to make believe H4 is a better game than it actual is but it wont change the fact it is not....as I asked if its such a great game please give some examples why?

Im getting 20+ kills with a solid K/D but im only getting maybe 50 XP more than the guy who only gets 10 kills. Now its all about points once you understand what gets you more points you win. Like tossing grenades or using a needler. Its not about people leaving I couldnt care less but now the entire game changes as players with different skill levels enter. As there is no penalty for leaving a game early people are free to come and go when ever they wish which destroys teh entire flow of the game.

i guess we are playing a totally different game then? Thats why there are idiots shooting a teammate with a Sticky Detonatorand having them run into a group of the other team killing them all but no harm to him. Again please cite some examples? Is it because getting kills and K/D doesnt even matter any more or the fact players can leave a game anytime they wish and new players join which completely destroys the flow of the game or the fact that the DMR is far overpowered?

Can you please cite examples why?

Ok specifically what elements of the game made it great as a far as campaign or matchmaking? They removed all the skill from matchmaking. Now that there is no friendly fire you can shoot right through your teammates or toss grenades without a worrying about your team.

Agree after seeing how they remade CE I was very excited to see what they could do with their own game. Even when I started playing I was thinking this is great but reality soon sunk in as I really started to look at the graphics. I was so stunned by the poor quality I had to load up Reach and H3 just to see how their graphics compared. I couldnt believe this is what 343 released. Instead of boasting about release sales numbers they should honestly be ashamed of the final product they released. People are taking notice now though after really playing the game just look at all the boards they are filled with people who are beyond disappointed with H4 and 343. I dont know if 343 will be able to recover from this. People want to give 343 a free pass and not accept the fact that the graphics and actual game play dont stand up to Reach or even H3 in some areas. For example I was playing big team in H4 and Valhlla came up I was really excited as I loved that map until I saw it. You seriously have to be blind to not see the graphics are horrible when compared to H3 Valhlla everything was completely washed out almost zero color what so ever. Once you factor in graphics and all the other issues I just dont see how people think this game is better than the other Halo releases or even worth $60 for 4-5 hours of campaign play.

Its not about complaining its about 343 releasing a game that is sub par when compared to the latest released Halo games. They have failed to produce a quality game but yet all the reviewers cant stop talking about how great the game is. Matchmaking is a train wreck now.There is no longer any friendly fire so you can shoot straight through your team. Just turn on PV and mash the trigger and toss grenades like crazy. As mentioned in another thread a teammate can destroy your vehicle but you cant boot him because you didnt die. They have removed all the skill in the game by doing so. Then with team members able to leave and join at will it destroys the entire aspect of playing a match. Rank means less now than it did in Reach. Im getting 15-20 kills a game with a K/D of +12 through +15 but still only get maybe 2500 XP. But the guy who goes negative gets almost the same XP? Then there is the XP cap which limits play for some reason. Then you cant tell you is a good player or a bad one as a player may only have 2 kills but he could have just joined the game. The DMR is so overpowered its almost a joke. With campaign it just felt rushed and unfinished, even if 343 is good and listening to feed back they cant recover from this because they basically gutted everything that made Halo what it is and instead gave us your average FPS. It seems to me that they didnt even try with campaign evident by music, lack of attention to detail, well laid out levels, a decent AI or even an actual final battle. Its more about faulty game mechanics and general lack of effort that made the campaign come across as a poorly put together package. Maybe they thought people would not care about campaign and only play matchmaking? Which seems like the case as they tweaked Halo to be far more like COD. The problem with that is Halo has always had a great campaign at its core. I would have been much happier if they didnt even release a campaign but instead only matchmaking. As I stated I like how they tried to balance the AA and the fact you can still play pro but with what they did to the campaign I dont think ill buy another Halo game produced by 343 again. I hope they are good at taking criticism because across the board long time gamers are disappointed with what 343 did to Halo. This was a huge mistake to take a step away from what Halo is and release a game that just doesnt hold up to previous releases. They just missed the entire concept of Halo. I hope their company can recover from this mistake. I just feel as if H4 was an insult because the core quality of the game was so low. Who knows maybe they can tweak matchmaking and redeem themselves.

To me the DMR kinda kills the whole weapon load out thing as you are forced to use a DMR as your primary. Because if you go up against someone with a DMR who knows how to use it you will not win unless you have a sniper or a DMR as well

Its evident you never played H3 when it was released

Agree with everything except this part have you driven the warthog lately? Seriously the lack of detail and attention to the graphics blew me away almost as much as the final battle. The graphics would be great for a game that was released in 2005 but in 2012 it fails. Drive a ghost in Reach and look at the dash you will notice objects will appear as a display as you drive by with H4 you get a plain purple screen thats it. 343 just didnt pay enough attention to details in this game.

They need to bring back friendly fire as now you just shoot straight through your team to get your kill, this is beyond stupid and really makes for a poor online game. Before you had to ensure your team mate was not in your line of fire now you can shoot straight through them. It makes zero sense as you can splatter your teammate but you cant shoot them? This is more than a flaw it is beyond poor planning on the part of 343....Im starting to wonder is they are actually any of them who have played Halo.

Why even have a warthog with no gunner, unless they just wanted to show of their new lawn mower sound effects of the warthog? They could have applied some type of automatic targeting system or even gave you the option of a mongoose but instead they just said here is a warthog enjoy not shooting anyone. It was pointless just like that Star Wars Death Star scene with the pelican.

I believe so I use the DMR for primary with BR as secondary. The DMR is the best weapon hands down but id still rather have the old BR from H3 that took skill and great foot work to pull off a 4 shot. Im not even that good and im owning people with the DMR like its nothing....hate to say it but it is a tad overpowered, With the DMR being as powerful as it is there is little point in using any other weapon as your primary.

Agree its all these little things you dont notice at first but once you look at everything as a whole in the game it just doesnt deserve the ratings it is getting. Its small things like the menu system or the lobby in matchmaking it just looks generic now compared to Reach or even Halo it feels outdated or unfinished.

The second mission doesnt make any sense at all as you said they provide you with their version of the warthog but no gunner? Why not have a group of marines that survived the crash? Things like this only show how they just tossed the campaign together without any real thought. Agree its all those small things put together that create a great game, Halo always stood above the rest now with H4 it feels like any other FPS out there. The campaign just felt empty and copied. The opening scene in the damaged space ship felt and played like CE, then you went to an underground base and rescued scientist hmmm pretty much like Reach "The Package". Dont even know where to begin with the "finally battle" if you can call it that. There was nothing ground breaking in the game at all. Its little things like hearing the grunts scream "run away" or talking to each other, that crazy marine they had in all the games (unless I missed it there wasnt one in H4), detailed graphics, well timed music that flowed perfect with the game or the grunts dancing at the club.....All these little things make Halo what it is and lets it stand apart from all the other FPS out there. 343 did a great job remaking CE but they seem to not fully understand what actually made Halo what it is today. Ok specifically what aspects of the game did you like?

What was H3...? Hmmm something like 1.2 million

In campaign its perfect in matchmaking its almost useless