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I don't need to read them as the information is available, do you think the games are going to follow the books exactly? Give away the story before the game is released? I know she was on earth but she has a fully functioning AI on that world, and it is functioning enough to change the Chiefs DNA. In the books the Original Didact died, at least his body did, he was killed by a Forerunner builder. However he transfered his mind into the body of another Forerunner and that is in the books, maybe you need to read them. You can go check Halo Wikia, all the info about the Didact is there. As for the Librarian, that was not an memory chip, it wsa using direct interaction, and control functions, including controling the Prometheans, until the Didact escaped. Anyway the Didact was killed by Faber, and transfered his mind into Bornsteller, that's why people think there were two. But their were not. Cool? It's called the Brevet Mutation. They can do this transfer an unknown amount of times, chances are and this is just a guess, but Dr. Halsey probably contains part of the Librarian consciousness. This would explain her natural afinity with Forerunner tech, her desire to create the Spartans(the Libriarans actual plan), and her gift for genetics, it would explain why she is so much smarter than everyone else. How the transfer is actually done is unkown, and how it works as well, but we will probably see this explained. To be honest I think I am right, but we will see. I know I am right about the Didact though. I should have made it clear what I was talking about with the Libriarian. Cortana is an AI, Guilty Spark was, and chances are that Librarian we say in the game was as it was running that shield world. AI's are friggin smart, and have lots of info, it new exactly how to change John. But we will see, one way or another the Librarian still has a part to play, I can feel it. If she can do multi generational genetic memory encoding, which is what she did and it lasts for Billions of years, she could have done that with her own memory as well via the Brevet Mutation on whatever human seed she wanted. See I know a little about books. Just to further the point. The Librarian died in Africa at a Forerunner site. Africa the cradle of Humanity, the place where it all began for us. Who is to say the Libriarian didn't have a protocol setup where a drone went out grabbed a cave person and used a device at the instilation to unpload her genetic memory and part of her concsience into them. So that one day they would evolve into Dr. Halsey, or the reincarnation of the Librarian in my own opinion. Look at Cortana based off genetic meterial for the Doc. The only thing outside of a Forerunner to surviive the mental attack of a Gravemind. Kind of a lucky twist of fate, or Cortanas unkown factor, Halsey identified an unkown factor in her creation for making her as smart as she was and unique as she was. What do you think that factor was considering she is based off the doctors mind? Plenty of hints. But again we will see. Just a theory, which is what this thread is about. The Doc and the Librarian are both experrts in the exact same fields, Genetics, AI's, etc. The Doctor could be to the Libriarian what Cortana was to the Doc. Cortana was much more than just a computer, she had emotions, concsience, selfawearness, feelings. Not a normal AI at all. And all based off the Doc herself. We can finish this debate in like 6 years. Looking forward to it. One last thing everything being discussed by us was left open ended, Halsey's past the Librarian's time on earth, Cortanas fate, Halseys natural gifts, cortanas natural gifts. All left open ended. A writer only does that for one reason. To address them later, and all of them can be tied together. Maybe I am right and maybe I am wrong but they are clearly easy connect.
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When I say argument I mean as in a debate, I don't do blog fighting as it is pointless. You may think you said a lot but it was pretty superfical, feel free to go in depth. I get it you want to keep it short on a blog, but who cares what other people think. You may point out something I missed and relay that information to me giving me a greater view of the game. I tend to encourage writing, I think it's a good thing. Well good writing is, then you have twilight and the like and I don't encourage that at all.
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Yes the Composer is destroyed and can not be used. She could touch the Master Chief because she was using hard light technology. But you may be on the right track, and the Libriarian may also be part of the answer as well. SPOILERS!!!! How about I pose these questions. Do you think the Humans are just going to let a Forerunner world sit there? They will probably send lots of people to that world where the Libriarian resides right? The Libriarian loves humans so she will probably be very helpful in updating their tech. Do you know how the Didact got his current body? Gosh could it have been a digital mind transfer? If he had that tech then don't you think the Libriarian has that tech? Now if they can get Cortanas head right, might not they also be able to put her in an actual body lets say like in Halo 6? Perhaps a cyborg body to allow her to still function as an intel officer with multiple Forerunner cybernetic implants to the brain kind of like the Libriaran once had so she can you know still do what she does. Her body could be on the Infinity runnig the ship, while she could still be linked to the Chief via Forerunner communication tech which is more than capable of doing that. Gosh isn't the Libriarian a galactic level gentic engineer capable of doing all of this with ease? A human body with full AI capablities, kind of like I don't know the Libriarian who could run whole Forerunner worlds with her brain, do you think? I mean really has it not occured to anyone that the Didact and Librarian are the Cortana and Chief of their respective time? The greatest hero and Warrior and the greatest mind. The Libriarian is trying to change fate because of what happened to her people. Don't you think she sees that in Cortana and the Chief? Don't you think she sees history repeating itself, the flood returning? The War between the Covenant and the Humans is not all that different from the Forerunner Human war. Fighting eachother when they should be fighting the flood. And now they have access to her, and I am pretty sure she wants to change some things. After all she wants them to have the Mantle. She also probably wants to fix things with the Didact who I suspect is not gone yet. Pretty sure he can teleport without a teleportation device much like the Prometheans do. Although he has lost his ship and most of his troops, oh and his Super Weapon.
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ThebigC started following Captain Del Rio , Halo 4 Cortana ending theories , Best Halo Ever!! (spoilers) and 3 others
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Don't want to spoil it but I will make a few corrections. The UNSC still has a treaty with the Arbiter and his faction of covenant. The Covenant faction you saw in the game is a fanatic loyalist group and an enemy of the Arbiter. UNSC has been in contact with Arbiter and even aided him, he has even been on the Infinity. The Covenant are having a civil war Seperitist vs. Loyalists. UNSC is sending them some aid but mostly thye are using the time to rebuild. They are also running around the galaxy grabbing every piece of Forerunner tech they can find and reverse engineering them. That's why the Infinity has crazy strong shields, energy projector cannons and slip space communication. Most of this is in Halo 4 if you listen close enough.
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Well according to you maybe, but according to critics it's metric score is lower than Halo, Halo 2, Halo 3, and Reach. You don't really say anything to support your argument other that it was the best ever. So your not actually making an argument, rather you are making a claim or statement. Given the fan response I would have to go with it not being the best. My reasons have already been stated on this board, so I won't waste my time repeating them. Some advice if you want to make that argument, try supporting them with some depth to your claims. I liked Lasky but I am not a big fan of his future as it makes no sense. Don't want to spoil it for anyone but it literally makes no sense. In this game he was fine, except for the fact that he new the Chief to begin with and they should have made that much more clear in the game. In fact the Chief is his hero. I get the Chief not remembering him but Lasky should have been a lot more animated about seeing his hero, who just saved his life, again.
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Novels make for good reading and you didn't say I was right enough. Like Super right, like the most right ever. A lot of that post was to clarify the first post which I thought was to vague and sloppy. None of it matters anyway John is not assigned to the Infinity, so he can only follow his last known Chain of command and standing orders. Last known chain is Lord Hood and NAVCOM, and standing orders are to "defend humanity at all costs." I guess Del Rio got nailed in the books for what he did, kinda wish that was maid clear in the game or that he was not the first choice for the Infinity which really belongs to Hood. The only reason he was given Command is that it was not currently being used as a war ship and was doing shake down tests. Would have made the whole thing make sense had that been put in the game. Out of his depth, on non com shake down drills, not known as combat commander but good at getting ships in order. Throw that in their and most of it makes sense. But threatening the MCPON that's just insane on any level, although in his case at least I would no why he went full retard. Because he has no idea what to do, he is out of his depth and he panics and does something stupid, well several stupid things.
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Well I wouldn't expect you to, because that was a joke too. This must be the humor light board.
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There is nothing but greatness from a Conan quote. Nothing. Shame on you for not knowing it was a joke and from Conan. The Chief wouldn't say that? Really? No Foolin? Hahahaha, glad you figured that out. Perhaps you should start a thread, "Things the Chief wouldn't say. I'll start "I'm Batman."
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I would like a write in vote for his last line. It should have been this. Laskey: well you did it again, you won, but Chief what is best in life? Chief: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
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Kind of ragey, not pure rage, but clearly some rage in this thread. You need to replay Halo 2 and 3, your information is wrong. I have my problems with the campaign, but most of what your complaining about is actually wrong information on your part. Now on to your points. You have a problem with the Covenant fleet and what they are doing. I don't it's explained in the game that they are a splinter faction of fanatics. As we all know fanatics do stupid things. Now if you had said I have a problem with why they are still following the great journey I would have agreed. The Prophets betrayed the elites and all the elites know the prophets were lying about the great Journey. It never made sense to me that they would still be fanatical about this lie. But fanatics are fanatics. So that can go either way. As for why Cortana didn't notice the Covenant fleet, the Dawn is totally smashed, so that I can believe. But the fact that the Covenant fleet did not notice the distress Beacon until the Dawn was on top of them made no sense. You don't like Captain Del Rio. Me either but your reasons are not that clear. For me he has to be an idiot, the Master Chief holds the official rank of Master Chief Petty Officer of the navy, his rank insignia is clear as day on the memorial. That means he is the Chief of NAVCOM and under the direct powers of the Chief of Navel Command, his billet protocol is that of a Vice Admiral. Captain Del Rio is not even in his command structure and even if he was the only people who order the Master Chief Petty officer of the Navy around have multiple stars on their insignias. That's why the Chief has gold not silver stars on his insignia. He could order Del Rio relieved of command with the snap of his fingers on grounds of incompetance and countermanding the standing orders of the Chief of Navel Command. Del Rio has zero power over the Chief. The Chief on the other hand acts with the authority of the Chief of Navel operations. No Captain in his right mind would even attempt to give him an order let alone threaten him. However it is the reason Del Rio is relieved of Command by NAVCOM later in the game and the Infinity is sent to assist the Chief. I agree I have no idea why they are letting an enemy ship sit in orbit above earth, they know it is an enemy ship because they have already debriefed the Infinity command officers. The Infinity damaged that ship with one shot, so why didn't the fleet open fire? They know they can damage it. Instead they sit idel by and let the ship kill everyone in New Phoenix. Kind of a huge mistake. I don't like idiot driven plots and this plot tended to be driven by just that. As for the ending, yeah I won;t argue it, the emotional context was well done but the execution of events was just to much of a reach for me. The Nuke, the light bridge bubble that had no power source or bridge device and it could take a nuke hit, the unexplained survival of a ground zero nuke, the use of the Force by the Diadac, which does make sense to me because I know one of the lead writers wrote multiple Star Wars novels. But it's Halo not star wars and it does not belong. The whole genetically placed Luck, all that to far of a stretch Libriarian history. Didn't do it for me. The game turned the Humans into genetically engineered seed corn that sprouted billions of years after it was planted. She supposedly planted the genetic seeds for them to make power armor? I mean come on, really? So it was all her and not the Humans, the Chief is the Chief because she made him the Chief, because she gave him all that he is in genetic coding placed in primordial ooze billions upon billions of year ago. None of it works because we actually know when the earth was formed and when the universe began. We don't have the window to develop to that level twice. The time does not exist. But I can forgive that kind of comic book science, but really programing all modern advances in science via primordial ooze. GTFOOH. I would buy Galactus showing up before that plot. But to each their own. If Chief uses Force Jump or Force lightning in Halo 5 I am going to have to dump the series.
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I'm... I'm gonna be fine thanks for asking. It's been a long day, the Packers won, I stubbed my toe. I recently broke up with my girlefriend and the weather suck. I put on like 10 pounds recently, my back is killing me, I won't be home for Thanksgiving, I have really bad gas right now, I miss my dog, I think I am coming down with the flu, I got stung by a bee, I stubbed my toe, I have gum in my hair, my mic sucks for xbox live, all the Pringles in the can were broken, my coke is flat, I found a gray hair today, Bieber just won an award, for what, for what I ask you? But I am... getting by. It's just so hard somet... Oh wait your talking about the game. Forget everything I just wrote, never mind.
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Lone wolf nothing, John is under standing orders of NAVCOM. "Defend Humanity" Unless Captain Del Rio suddenly became Fleet Admiral Commander of Navel operation, he is directly trying to countermand Johns standing orders. Not to mention trying to give orders out of his command authority. Master Chief Petty officer of the navy. Is under the direct command structure of NAVCOM, and under the direct command of Lord Commander Hood. Del Rio is so out of his depth it's nott even funny. The only people John answers to are NAVCOM and they are the only ones who can givee him orders, and nobody can countermand Hoods orders except Hood. To further John is under his own discretion, and the chief spec ops asset. Unless given authority by Hood and or NAVCOM to command such assets, then he has zero authority over John. Let me put it this way unless given the authority by NAVCOM, no Ship Captian could start ording SEALS around, let alone the command Master Chief of the SEALS. They would be deployed and ordered by Operation Command. The Captain would be nothing more than a Cab driver to them. Take us here. As for protocol, Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (Johns official Rank). Billet Protcol dictates he is to be treated as a Vice Admiral. While this does not mean John runs around commanding fleets, it does mean if he makes a request or recomendation you had better listen because NAVCOM will bust your *** if you don't. Any person in the navy knows this. Just to achieve this rank is the highest honor an enlisted can recieve from the navy. It's a huge deal, and to treat the MCPON with such disreguard, and to threaten to arrest him is nothing more than a Captain asking to be relieved. He is not under Del Rio's command structure. The Chief works for NAVCOM as a direct spec ops asset and holds the single highest enlisted rank in the navy placing him under Hoods command. Literally CHain of command goes like this in terms of giving chief orders, Commander Navel operations, Senior officer NAVCOM if Hood is unavailable, Chiefs discretion under Hoods standing orders for him. That's it.
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The Captain in question is a horrible character. First the chief never violates any orders as he is listed as MIA meaning he is not active. Second he is senior Chief off the navy meaning his command structure falls directly under commander hood. Third he is in spec ops meaning his command falls directly under spec ops. Fourth no Captain would ever be given command of thee Navy's flag ship as it is the command ship of a battle group or task force meaning he would need at the very least the rank of rear Admiral. Fifth the Chief saved the earth, the Captain, the crew and his ship, oh and the galaxy. There is no Captain in existence crazy enough to question him as top brass would have their head on a spike. Which by the way they did, relieved of command. The single greatest hero in the known universe, tthe man who just saved you and your entire crew and you try to arrest him because he is trying to stop the earth and human race from being destroyed. The Chief could of had him relieved of command for incompetence in a heart beat. As it was how many people died on earth because of the Captains failure to act. Finally we already know the Chief has been granted full authority to act on his own accord in defense of the humane race. To question him is to question the direct orders of Lord Hood and Navel command. Take a look at Johns Rank insignia at the end of Halo 3 gold stars, 3 gold stars, there is only one insignia like that in all of the navy. Senior Command Master Chief of the navy, which means his billet protocol is that of a Vice Admiral. AKA John out ranks him anyway. So not only did the captain not have a clue, he also violated Lord Hoods standing orders, broke the chain of command and violated protocol. Oh yeah he is a genius. Sorry the insignia is that of the Master Chief Petty officer of the navy. Same thing, senior most enlisted under the direct command of navel command, billet protcol of a Vice Admiral. Right def wrong name.
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What? What are you talking about? How does anything I wrote relate to what you just wrote? Did you reply to the right post? Who said anything about thhe books or what John said in them? We are talking about how some fans view the Chief. Luck? Who was talking about his luck? Please reread my post.
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Sure, but that's more about you than John. Nobody likes to get older, iit makes us feel vulnerable. Even when we see those around us age. But that's life. For the Master Chief it is like we would see him lose his mystique. In the armor he seems invulnerable, but what is he outside the armor? You have only ever known him with it, it's like he becomes sommething else in your eyes. Lucky for everyone he is not doctor who, it's only armor, and he is still the chief. Notice how you called him John and not the Master Chief, my guess is because it is personel for you. How long have you played the games? 5 years? 10 years? I wouldn't worry to much about it. I also would not go on to say it is an insult, what insult? Eyes you can't even see? If you do end up seeing the Chief which I doubt ever happens, would that change him. Imagine if someone else put on his armor, whould that make him John 117? No, because it's not about the armor