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Yet to see a poll including A balance patch come in at the top 3 https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst161494_Sandbox-TU-or-Customs-TU.aspx https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst152001_Only-1-in-4-like-game-as-is-Super-Poll-Tread.aspx Could the game use it. Maybe but only very minor changes and really the stuff breaking the game for most people has nothing to do with the weapons.

There is another Banshee thread in the first 10 threads. Please learn to forum at least a tiny bit. As the above said. The invincible vehicals are gone. They are designed to be useful in skilled hands but when countered properly are very beatable.

Yup. Make it so you can clear gap and zip in and out of cover. With the 3rd person thing gone I won't be dissoriented anymore. It isn't even a with reticule 3rd person it is just watching an animation that ***** everything.

Yall just using it wrong. It is so ******* powerful. Getting blown away all day when some people are in it.

Ignore and move on after my translation. I can't go 30-0 in the banshee that I run straight for and camp for every single game. WHAAAAAAA WHAAA WhaAAAA.

Had to bring this thread back.. People still don't get why a DMR nerf is bad

SHUT UP. Seriously. Why do I have to keep stomping on these. DMR IS OP. I DIE WHEN I RUN IN THE OPEN threads. This game was masterfully crafted to have a Learning curve that makes is so at the highest levels using the higher skilled weapon is most advantageous but there are a lot of options for up and coming playing who aren't so competitive.

I might support a patch that slightly changes the weapons but I want a pre release of the patch and a community vote before it hits the game. Also the 13th bullet kills to the 5 shot is all money,. any of the 3 could be a headshot to get a kill.

At best it should be closer. I personally support a skill curve balance where the hardest weapon has the best peak performance. So I can support making them close but not outright better because the BR has 3 chances to get a headshot with every shot so getting a Body kill is almost impossible.

First off. 13th bullet kills not 15th. Will edit after I read the rest LOL... That is how it already works.. I could contend with a slight accuracy increase on the BR. IDK about any changes to the kill speed. I need a few months to have a chance to be bored enough and octagon test these weapons to get a grasp on the Skill to use vs killing power difference with them. After the first update I'll have had time to consider and I might support increasing the ROF.

It is a power weapon. The only problem is that the Ordenance is random so one team might get Saws and the other Sniper rifles. Sorry Sniper wins 90% of the time in that battle. No more grenades in ordenace. No one wants a grenade over power weapon.

You are playing Public matches. Honestly. This is the most balanced halo ever. Is it Very powerful. Yes. It does have the weakness of the lazer and limited mag and ammo though. I'd rather have more ammo since I can scope without giving myself away and hit headshots.

That he does. Especially his last statement. All the noobs scream adapt when competitive players hated Armor abilities and BLOOM in Halo Reach. Now that we have a game with great mechanics that support high end competitive gameplay they are screaming change to go back to AR fests. I am scared that kids like you who can't even use weapons properly are going to have input on what balance means. Isn't that such an oxymoron. Doesn't know how to use the weapons. Decides how to balance them. It is like me when I first started playing halo 2 commenting on balance when I didn't even notice when they patched the BR. Are you afraid to accept my challenge of using all the weapons in an arena to see what kind of data we get? We can do it and I'll post the film from my perspective and you from yours. DMR so OP. I'll never touch the thing.

DMR NOT OP. LR OP. I GET MOST OF MY KILLS IN BTB WITH THE LR.

Ya know what. Yes. It is an interesting weapon and Ordinances and **** are all random anyway so who cares about infinity slayer being unbalanced.. If it is so OP everyone would use it and they don't. Without radar almost no one would use it. This game has a great sandbox of weapons and now people are bitching because they aren't all the same. First everyone wants new different weapons and now that those weapons get used against them they *****.

If we tossed 2 noobs into a Box one what an AR and one with a DMR the AR user would win most of the time. If you did a Skilled player with the AR and a noob with a BR or DMR the AR would probably win 100% of the time because it is hard to aim. If you switched the weapons. The AR noobs might win some cause the DMR user can't miss shots to win. I need to find some octagon maps.

People just don't want to have to do anything anymore. If you suck so much just play OPS and Campaign on Easy over and over again. I want a SKILL CURVE to my game and that requires balancing around skill with a dash of noob thrown in for casual players so they enjoy the game and gives the ROCK PAPER SCISSORS gameplay they crave without giving competitive skilled players the frustration of having to run in straight lines spraying, praying and meleeing cause that is the only viable option in a universe with "balanced around power not skill weapons". But once you start to hit the end of the skill curve it becomes a balanced game of meta game+aiming skill where both players have many choices affecting the outcome of battle. Instead of their dream where you could through a theoretical 35 in a game of 50s and he could be effective because of the ease of use of the weapons instead of because of his skill. Right now most bitching if from people getting bad matches. I think I have gotten only a couple matches where I felt like all the players were even in my skill catagory. AKA going 40 and 0 and getting a perfection in Swat. All they had to do was shoot me in the head first one out of 15 times. They failed.

I am talking to 343 studios. Odds of them reading this. 1% maybe. But if they do I want to hit the only figure that matters in the end to a game company. Sales. Pre bloom removal halo reach is considered the worst game in the series by Most players that started in previous Titles and it was a downward slid that reflects the average of most players ranking HCE>H2>H3>>>>>>>>HR. Each game was less competitive than the last. After the Title patch removing Bloom a lot of players see Reach as at least=H3 but halo 3 wasn't as good as people like to think and they expected better so it just made reach playable instead of a home run 2 years to late. After we get missing Custom options/Bug fixes(No game mechanic changes) most people are ready to rank this game on the same level as H2 or better. This game has reversed the slide of the halo franchise. So you can not blame nostalgia like the Noobs did for 6 years on the forums. It is a quantifiable thing related to game mechanics. I am telling you the DMR is a required linch pin that without it as is the tower they built could crumble. I have a 2.3 KD. With the DMR I have a 3.6. OMG OP... NO. OMG I am good. I am among a minority. I'd say the top 5% of halo players. In my hands it is a fun and deadly weapon. But I assure you it isn't the number 1 weapon and the reason is. It is hard to use(which is why most players don't use it) BTB is a specialized playlist. Bitching about everyone using the DMR is like bitching because everyone uses the BR in swat. Of course we don't have a way to check and Swat will **** with the figures but I'd still bet weapon use goes like so. AR>>>BR>DMR I bet 50% of players in infinity slayer run with a Automatic primary(AR mostly. 30%BR 18% DMR 2% other. Novice>>>Intermediate>>Expert. Within the Expert player class you have a wide skill range but at least in the aspect of aiming they are above most or even just enjoy the weapon more. Cause I bet you a lot of people could get more kills with the AR instead of using a BR or DMR. Figures might skew to a less wide range do to the lack of small maps plus the number of CQC weapons will spread it out. The DMR will probably go down in use as BTB players find the LR is super OP but they haven't yet. Soon then that bitching will start. ***** about no Descoping if getting sniped by long rifles bothers you. I have not done that yet since I have yet to get DMR and BR mastery then Carbine and LR mastery. Some day though I will drop into KOTH with the AR and PwN cause it is the weapon more than the user until you reach people on your level then weapons come into play so it requires mind games as much as aiming skill. Just posting this. I am thinking this as fairly accurate as this matches other people data that seemed reliable. DMR kills in 5 shots at 44 frames or 1.46 seconds. BR kills in 5 bursts (13 bullets) at 52 frames or 1.73 seconds. Carbine kills in 8 shots at 49 frames or 1.63 seconds. LightRifle unzoomed kills in 5 bursts (14 bullets) at 53 frames or 1.76 seconds. LightRifle zoomed kills in 4 shots at 42 frames or 1.4 seconds.

And the Community has Spoken. 70% say. STFU and play the game. It is balanced.

You got defeated by the same old spin. So your argument was so weak I could say the "same thing" over and over and you couldn't rebut it because your argument is plain and simple Rock paper Scissors gameplay where the game is slow boring and random because everyone just camps in their range with their weapon instead of having everyone with the same or similar weapons and letting other factors decide the winner based around player skill not which weapon they are holding.

OW NOSE I GOT NO SCOPED BY A SNIPER. BETTER NERF IT SO YOU CAN"T SHOOT IT UNSCOPED AND BRING BACK DESCOPING(I actually think it does need to come back). So because people can kill you with it and it is more powerful than weapons designed for that range even though it is FAR more difficult to handle in that way. It should be nerfed so we can play ROCK PAPER SCISSORS. You just compared Facts with Idiots ranting. Bloom was first intraduced in REACH and reach failed and most people agree it was the worst title mostly do to bloom. If you had halo friends you might know this. I've known some local players since halo 2 and my BF from intruduced me to HCE. That other thing I also read has been how halo has always worked. Always..

If the Kill times were equal would you be happy?

Do you know how many Kids with College degrees work for minimum wage now? Strike 1 Thought I was even remotely serious. Strike 2 Tries to sound smart and put me down, Strike 3 You went full retard. You never go Full retard.

Remove 3rd person is a must. IE no Animation(I think is what yall calling it) It should be a tactical item not an extra sprint. So it needs to give it distance "like" the Zombies thrusters and you should be able to shoot while using it(aiming while using it is enough to stop from being OP. If you got Rockets maybe not but Everything with rockets is OP. LOL It should be a great camp breaker when you fly in through a window you can't reach otherwise except jetpack but faster for surprise.

I think people should learn to play the game before making balancing decisions. It has been out for about 2 weeks. Come back after the first update which will be for actual glitches/bugs and with a little luck adding custom/forge options so the Custom community can build unlimited fun gametypes.