Your Player 1/2 scenarios don't make sense because people are complaining that having the DMR being a spawn weapon is OP because its immense power renders the use of any other starting weapon useless. The true scenario of whats going on is more like Player 1 has a DMR and Player 2 has overshields and a BR. Player 1 Killed Player 2. Doesn't matter close up or cross map. Doesn't even matter if Player 2 shoots first. The DMR should have been left in Reach. The Halo franchise is now dead to me. Thanks 343i