ProudDrunkIrish

The thread was not really about why people were not playing I was stating a fact that the same day same time 1 week before there seemed to be approx 3 times more people playing. It was a comment on the drastic drop and I was more worried that 343 had altered something so i did not see all the players online for some reason (mythought being i could only see fellow gamers who have not bought the Map packs) The reasons why people have quit are many and far between but a sudden exodus usually has a fairly consistent reason.

Wow that is not particularily good, especially as things are starting to improve somewhat. I suppose the damage was done early and recovery may be all but impossible. That said it did seem to drop drastically from last week, did some big title get released??

The game is not run from dedicated servers, instead 1 person in the game hosts the game and this is where your issue lies. If they are on the other side of the world you have ing the best connection ever is not going to help. Lag is always an issue with this setup. I find the lag worst in BTB and not too bad in slayer where less info has to be processed, all I can say for you is play at times when most people in your time zone should be online (more chance of getting a local host) also avoid Big team outside these times, less players = less info = less lag

Now this is not the typical rant at the loss of players, it is related to the issue but is more a question. I have been playing in the morning after nightshift all week and noted that around 09:30 GMT there are less than 10K players. Previous to this week there always seemed to be closer to 30K, now i do not have the DLC downloaded so am wondering did the recent update make it so I only see people in my shoes (i.e no DL content) or are the numbers actually this low. It just seems to low to be right, now I am aware that its between 01:00-03:00 or so in the states and its morning midweek in europe (i.e. work/school time for many) but still seems wrong. Anyone know if this is something to do with what I can see after an update or is it actual figures??

So why do you not try and turn the game around, someone quitting just says they are bad at the game, nothing else, for all you know the enemy are some of the worst players you will ever play. I often end up top player on the team when i JIP so i fail so see peoples issues.

Whatever te default is never felt the need to change and i seem to do just fine, it works great all round and any loss in movement speed is automatically made up for in style of play.

Ah I see what ya mean, oh well i dare say it was a small oversight and either way its easy to know what the commendation is for. Good spot I suppose.

The maps are not abialable to download, the option has just appeared by accident, they are simply getting ready for the release. until the actual release date it will not be able to complete a download.

The join in progress system was designed to stop you being left in a match on your own, it is not perfect but even in the case you describe (which is rare by my experience) more players will be added soon after you. So in a short space of time you should have an almost full team. have patience with it, besides the less of you their is the more opportunity you have to kill the enemy.

Happens all the time, I stopped going for the tank on exile for this exact reason, people would emp or stick me for no good reason, same on ragnarok for the mantis. Its very sad but thanks to the arse of a system 343 have (i.e. no friendly fire) the bad players can get away with it. They should never have changed the old system. I guess you will just have to be like me and give up on getting good vehicles and laugh as some useless player gets it and dies in 2 seconds.

I have to disagree entirely!! I am not sure what maps you have been playing but any big team one is generally long distance with no CQC combat at all. Ragnarok - entirely open, you should never be assasinated in this map ever!! all long range gun fights almost no CQC Exile - Mostly long range although if you go fighting for certain areas you may enter CQC, but overall satying out of the centre its long range (take up position at banshee spawn and shoot down on enemy spawn) Meltdown - Crazy map all over the place so open in some areas you die from shots from god knows where. LongBow - Take the high ground and hold is the main feature, whether you have it or not it is a long range shootout most of the time. These are just a few of the BTB maps, now they have created areas for CQC if that is what you want but these are easy to avoid and lots of the maps are very open. They have more long range weapons now and most people use them as they do not attempt CQC.. I dare say change your style of play and you may have more success.

No timer and I doubt it will come back, also would like to be able to change my mind should I wish to do so.

Scorpion, its more accurate!! thats pretty much the main thing in a tank, it 1HK's almost anything so accuracy = survival = success

Killing Spree is just 5 kills in a row, then you have Killing Frenzy, running riot rampage etc... These are all known by the name Spartan Spree's thus if i understand your post right (not being in front of my xbox at the moment) then the commendation is correctly named. Or if I misunderstand are you saying that the killing spree medal is called spartan spree as I am pretty sure its called Killing Spree when i go in and look at it.

You and many others, they made it no friendly fire but failed to think it through. They kinda have to have it the way it is or else every time an enemy would try to board a friendly vehicle (say tank) you could just stick nades to the tank killing him and doing no damage to the tank!!! Honestly they should have just left the friendly fire in the game and it would be all the better for it, its like every time I play dominion I have teammates trying to shoot enemies through me (they are used to slayer) but they are actually helping to kill me.

I like the concept of dual wield but on a whole you could only really have the secondaries whi would not really be a great perk!! if you start adding more to the dual wield list then you may run into the problem of it being OP. Its just hard to see how it would work.

Actually a great question here is what weapons would it work with, the idea of dual wield is fine and in the past weapons have been designed to work with it but in this game there are few that I would consider plausible. I mean sure a PP and a magnum could be good, but say 2 SAW's or 2 x incineration cannons lol, (not that you would find these often). One possibility would be that in your ordinance you get certain weapons dual wield when the perk is on!! now I am not sure what weapons and if it would be fair!! Did you play Halo 3??? I mean how do you not remember the maulers???

I had assumed as much, still cannot figure out the DMR turning into a PP though.. I had no idea what people can or cannot do so I said i'd post it and let some more knowledgeable people set my mind at ease. Thanks for the replies.

AR as all round it seems the best of the lot.

The Gauss wins hands down, a 1HK and accurate enough to hit someone across a big team lvl, its like a mounted easy to use sniper. It is probably the most lethal weapon of any kind in the game.

Well this is all a case of what situation you are in. For example in Big Team I alsways have plasmas as there are so many vehicles to kill. But in smaller maps or even say Dominion I like frags, they do more damage in enclosed space and are far more useful for offensive play all in all. I have not really used the pulse grenades, they do not seem to suit my style of play though i have seen them used to good advantage.

Was playing a round of BTB this morn and some very strange things were going on.. Being after nighshift I am sorry to say I did not record the round for further viewing. However a few odd things seemed to be going on. There was some lag which is normal enough and could be to blame I suppose. Some of the enemy team seemed to be able to 3 shot me with DMR's for almost the entire round, also they took out vehicles with amazing speed, now all of this I had put down to lag but then wierd stuff started to happen... When i was fighting a guy 1 on 1 and winning all of a sudden my DMR turned into a PP, now I did not prss x so its not a case of accidentally picking up a weapon (oh and this happened twice versus I think the same guy, it was in the same place anyhow) Ordinance did not appear when dropped and the banshee seemed to come back way faster than usual... Now all of this could be lag related and probably is but I was curious is there anything a person may have been doing to cause this?? I am not really up to dat on modding etc. so have no idea what is possible. Any thoughts was one hell of a random round hahaha.

I dunno one of the perfictions for the best round K/D wise I suppose. Though the most fun I had was dominion on exile, me in a banshee and my mate in a wriath, the enemy just kept going for him and I kept killing them before the could board him, in the end I had 27 kills in a row with a banshee hahaha. Both teams were so poor it was more funny than anything else, at one point C was left uncaptured for about a minute lol..

i can understand your sentiment but its hard to add more balanced things to a game with so much stuff already, if they had allowed the selection of 3 perks in a loadout then yes they could have had way more additions and less effect, as it is playing BTB I find I still use ammo and wheelman all the time as they are quite simple the most useful. Then in slayer/dominion/oddball/KOH its explosives and resupply!! The original perks are better in general that those from the specializations as it stands. But just for kicks to try and help the thread I would propose the following: Name: Mechanic Perk: Combat Engineer Ability: Emp has a greater effect, bullets do more damage to vehicles. The above perk would essentially be a counteract perk for wheelman, it would help with the vehicle commendations also.

High expectations made by good reviews and massive advertising and in the end we get a mediocre game, I guess most people fell a little let down but cest la vie...