ProudDrunkIrish

Probably/maybe/supposed to be lol... same words all the time yet no action. I fear they will have it like KoH currently only available if you buy the DLC, could be wrong and in team snipers case may well be as it needed work. Yet KoH and slayer pro were ok and are now gone for no explainable reason!! Team regicide has a low player count yet stays around..

I have been complaining about this for the last few days, more because I have not had a decent drop in a long time (just the luck of the draw I suppose). But this has made me more aware of the enemies drops, many times on Ragnarok the enemy team has had 3-4 snipers going at one time which is not really fair. I believe that the system could be say the same drop in sequence for each team.. with minor differences of course. for example: Drop 1: Sniper(any sniper that can be random)/overshield/grenades(any kind) Drop 2: Rockets(any kind)/speedboost/grenades(any kind) Drop 3: Concussion or Railgun/damage boost/grenades Drop 4: Shotgun(either)/speed boost/ grenades The above is just to highlight that each team gets the same sequence of drops with the few random changes being the only difference. The list could be pre set and this would encourage people to go out and fight as the best drops come first. The sequence of drops could be equivalent to the number of players on each team or just less so the better player doing the work gets the better drops. They could also thus have it limited to say 1 spartan laser per team per round in btb. I know the system above is just a thought but what ye think??? Any possible improvements?

I agree, in my opinion the trouble lies with the power of the DMR which needs knocking back a bit against vehicles. If they reduce the fire rate of the DMR as I believe is the plan then vehicles will last a bit longer and thats all they need to be honest. A good test, I suppose I say the DMR because its the most common gun in BTB where the banshee is to be found. but I will say that on Ragnarok you cannot escape the DMR with range but you will be able to escape the BR to some extent so that will allow you to get away and take a break/recharge

I like the sound of you appearing on radar when charging but it may make it too easy to spot. Personally I would do one of the following: Shorten 1HK range to melee range. Exponentially decrease damage beyond this range i.e. outside 1HK 50% of shields, then little or no effect a bit further away. Make it a fixed charge/release time. Then it would actually require some skill. Increase weapons cool down time during which you cannot change weapon or refire. Now not all of these need to be implemented just a few, the weapon keeps its use but becomes a little harder to use. This would keep its function (its ability to 1HK) yet stop it from owning say a shotty or sword unless the user is really good with it.

Leave it a 1HK but nerf distance for this and reduce the damage to no more than 50% of shields when outside this range would be fair, I could not find an issue with these changes being implemented as they maintain its use. Its a bit mad at the moment and overused in many game modes.

The Banshee is a bit soft when it comes to small arms fire in my opinion, all the tactics in the world can't help if a like minded team decide to take action against you when your in it. I have been on both the giving and recieving end of destroying a banshee with DMR fire and tbh its too easy to do. If the nerf the DMR as I heard they are going to do that will make a little bit of a difference and should solve some of the issue.

Probably that or some other get me outa jail perk lol, in this game a higher K/D means a bigger camper lol....

It would appear that luck has become the most important thing in this game... I have been having one of those nights and yes I know they happen but in at least 14 ordinace drops I have not had 1 sniper rifle (playing btb so it would help) or any rocket launsher or spartan laser. I have just played yet another round on ragnarok where the opposition seem to have more snipers than anything else, let me correct that they did lol I stole their mantis twice and banshee once so they had practically no vehicles but due to insane ordinance they beat us.. Now I know this is not always the case but it is many times, my round has been saved by ordinance at times, it just seems too random to be in anyway right Any comments or thoughts..

Congrats you failed to read the other thousand threads of this nature, we all know its OP and thats why most of us use it. I still got Br mastery first, I liked the feel of the gun as I did not play reach and it was closer to my H3 days. Having gotten used to the DMR it is a joke so now I use it as why not... I hear they are going to slow the fire rate so the BR will soon own it in mid range (about time) and it will be harder to finish players off in BTB. So have patience wait and see if 343i deliver on something it promises lol

Its unfortunate they did not fix the bug quicker or we could have had it forever lol... They tried to fix the free DL thing for 24+hrs before they started mentioning the ''free trial'' or their get out of jail clause lol.

They keep saying things like that but none of it has actually happened yet, Team snipers had issues so I was happy when they took it for more work but there is no sign of it coming back. Why they took KoH I am not sure unless they plan on rereleasing them only to people who pay for DLC (actually that sounds like a real posibillity). I mean no normal KoH but yet its in the DLC, I have not heard to many people complain about slayer pro so why the need to fix before other issues people actually complain about???? Its a bit like microsoft making a mess of the crimson DLC download, they messed up some people got it free and when they could not fix the issue quick enough they posted a little press release calling it a free trial (while openly on other forums and twitter trying to fix it lol) this meant that they could then stop those who got it free from having it forever with no repurcussions.. Unfortunatley in the wake of Bungie the series has become about money instead of gameplay and the players (another thing it now shares with CoD) sad to see. I wonder what will dissapear next??? It will probable be the most highly played non infinity slayer playlist, FOR FIXING OF COURSE...

Wow can it get any worse lol, (and yes this is me flaming a little but this is not the first time it has happened) Been playing BTB and well what can I say its been Needler to concussion rifle back to needler for exactly 8 loadouts lol, These games having been played on ragnarok these weapons have not served me well, to add insult not 1 damage boost in any of them. Now this annoyed me but the thing that made me come here to flame was getting killed by UNSc snipe from enemy base, spawn then die from UNSC snipe from pelican (diff sniper), spawn die from beam rifle from opposite pelican, then to really annoy me next death is from binary rifle. Now that means that the enemy got 3 sniper rifles at least in ordinances and i did not notice 1 of my team sniping. The fairness of the ordinace drops is ridiculous, maybe the enemy had the perk for try again on ordinace (you know what I mean) but still this made us go from winning to getting hammered, ordinance are meant to improve a game not just destroy 1 team.. They need to do something about this on BTB, in slayer all options are of some use but on Ragnarok what help is a Hammer unless you camp with invis and TBH who wants that.

Right it is as the title says though I must add i was one of the people who got it for free without map pass or LE... I have been playing on it up until recently and now after the last update it is saying I do not have the content required. Its still on my HD and i was even able to redownload it from my download history. Is it simply that the update was done to catch those who benefited from their mistake and make them pay (if it is then thats no prob, might not buy it as it was poor enough but still a bit shoddy lol) Just wondering if anyone who also got it for free or even paid has come across this issue.. UPDATE: Never mind having checked it out on the good old interweb I have found that to cover their arse Microsoft made an unofficial trial period of 14 days that is now over. What a smart group they are indeed twist the law when you make a mistake lol.. Should have guessed it was too good to last.

The Boltshot is OP and thats more a fact than anything else at this stage. I use it all the time, in many situations I am running around with it more than a primary (for shame I know), it takes little or no skill to use or aim as centre mass is easy to hit. If you do miss your first shot there are many times you have time to take a second shot which is deplorable to be honest. Its range often exceeds what it should be, maybe this is down to some form of lag or game issue but I get kills and often think 'how the hell did I get that one'. Its got plenty of ammo so the fact it uses half a clip per kill is irrelevant. I find it funny that people still claim it not to be OP, I know its OP as I use it more than anyone should use a secondary, the other secondaries do not even come close,

At first I would have said yes but now its a big No Ball for example can be a race to the ball in some of the new lvl's as once you have it the maps are so big you never lose it. Even for BTB they are only so so at best, they have no flow and all have the same main building centre and float around the edges feel. It just seems the novelty wore off and now they are becoming more maps that never get voted unless there is no better option. To be honest I am a little dissapointed as previous games should provide a good basis of knowledge on how to develop a good map. I am happy I got them free as in retrospect I would not have paid for them.

The death grenade has been in halo forever, if I am going to lose a shoot out for sure then I will always use the last of my life to drop a grenade!! It gives you a chnace of a kill (from the grave) that you were not going to get by keeping up the fight. Its smart play and nothing noob friendly about it. The player throwing the grenade has to judge where you are going to be when it goes off and has to be quick throwing it while under pressure. Well done if they get it..

Got it for free so imo yes, is it not still available for free? and yes I do not have LE or map pass

Just finished the mastery of BR and am now using DMR in its place and I have to say that its pretty much as good as the BR at mid range (BR might have the slightest advantage), but then at longer range it is way better. The fire rate is the only change they can make, it may take some time to tweak it but in the end it will be worth it as the DMR's accuracy will keep it better at long range and the BR will be a clear favourite at mid range. I do not see how there is any argument against this as the general consensus seems to be that its OP which it is. This would make the BR more usable and give it a home in mid range/smaller maps

I have to say the BR as it is would be fine if they make the DMR 1 more shot to kill or give it a slower fire rate. Buffing the BR will leave the AR totally outclassed in smaller rounds thus making it redundant, the BR is great in the likes of Haven (it is equal to the DMR in this range) but loses so badly in BTB lvl's so something has to be done.. Doing something t the DMR is really the only option here or there will be a knock on effect. The fire rate change could be the best as they could refine it easier than simply needing an extra shot.

Yeah I have seen this happen a lot in objective games, I play with 2 fiends so we often find we ae 3 v 2 then it soon becomes 3 v 5 which is almost impossible to overcome, The system is a pain but if the old system were introduced it would be worse, at least in H3 if you were left on our own you could have a go in the hope of gettin at least 1 for 1's or better but H4 is not given towards this happening..

Have to agree with this, I got 2 x needler/speedboost/pulse grenades drops in 1 round of BTB on ragnarok and from what I saw my teammates were gettin little good stuff either, on the oher hand the opposition at 1 point had 2 unsc snipers and 2 binary rifle users!!! Now we were on top but still the uneven spread to the drops was immense, we had the hill and just could not go any further as they had 4 snipers!! If they even made it that the drops on each team were even then not too bad but this random system is very annoying and has too much of an influence on the game imo.

Based on what I have read on the forum about the future ranking system being implemented next year the xp lvl up system may be no more than something to keep you entertained till then. Playing for xp when there is nothing to be earned from it is pointless anyhow. If they are implementing a proper ranking system then it will negate the xp system so no need to change it at all

I have to say I had originally preferred the BR in mid range contest i.e. 4 v 4, but having completed the weapon mastery for it I have been using the DMR in what I classed as BR rounds recently and I cannot notice any decline in my gameplay.. I may have to say that the BR advantage may be more in my head than in reality (plaing a lot of BTB so gettin very used to DMR, could be a reason). The DMR needs to be a shot extra or slower fire rate, either one of these or else time to buff the BR and make it a 4 shot.. I would say nerf the DMR as buffing the BR will result in AR users suffering to it in mid-close range combat.

Not seen any obvious hacking yet.. so cannot complain at all, no endless ammo faster shooting or anything. OP must be very unlucky

I love how the company name ends up behind a community run forum and the game name is their official forum lol.. makes the least sense ever.