Cassi

I take no offense whatsoever. I freely admit that my highest rank was 42 in Halo 3 (never played Halo 2 online), and BTB has never been my cup of tea (Halo 4's version even less so). I defer to your experience regarding both high-level play and BTB strategies. That being said, I understand what you're saying. My experience, however, shows me that when visible rank get's involved, the scum of online gaming invariably emerges: The overly-competitve and nasty players who use their rank and skill as nothing more than a tool to berate and humiliate others, protected as always by the veil of anonymity that the internet so kindly offers. It's not the ranks I have issue with. It's the sub-humans who overwhelming try to obtain it with the mistaken belief that the digital number next to their name makes them just plain better than everyone else. And let me tell you, these folks (usually kids, 11-18) aren't shy about espousing this belief. Kinda ruins the game, at least for me anyway.

Ok, but let's say those "hardcore" players you're about to engage aren't really that hardcore after all. Let's say they "bought" their rank. So because you thought they were tough stuff, you decided to forgo the tank, allowing them access to it. Not only have you been fed misinformation, but it's cost you a very powerful weapon. All because a little symbol told you to alter your tactics. If you're claiming that rank provides you with valuable tactical information, that goes both ways. It could very easily deceive you into altering your tactics to your detriment. You "can" overthink a situation. Might as well just get in the game and play. After all, it's just that, a game.

Oh, I'm not opposed to it. Not at all. I just find the whole thing "stupid", including the inference that the game is "bad" without it. By all means, enjoy your meaningless badge of virtual skill if and when they make it available in game. Personally, I feel there are FAR greater things they could worry about implementing or tweaking...

I might. I played ranked in Halo 3 (a lot), but if they do implement a Ranked/Social divide, I'll likely spend most of my time in the latter.

Looks like a lot of fun! Can't wait to take a look around these islands!

Fair enough, but I don't see why a symbol matters all that much in regards to that. If you want to brag, win the game first, "then" spout off like a pompous 12 year old with a lack of responsibilty in life. What's the point of acting like a self-important ****** before the match even begins?

You'll find out who is "good" and "not as good" as soon as the game begins. I fail to see how having this information a few seconds beforehand makes any tactical or strategic difference, beyond simple "bragging rights". Just play the game.

Because not everyone likes to use the DMR?

Maybe you ought to go join the military, I hear there's no radar there either. You might find that it's you, however, that's the "bad kid". Point being: This is a VIDEO GAME, and I rather enjoy having my radar. If I wanted to simulate real combat and recreate "All Quiet on the Western Front", I'd join the military, "kid". : /

Well, for not speaking English, you speak it better than most others. lol As for Halo being dead, I disagree. Different, yes. Dead, no.

Whatever I'm feeling like at the moment. Mostly Infinity Slayer like everyone else, with some Griffball thrown in here and there. Unfortunately, my time to play has declined steadily. And to be honest, I once shared your mentality, Tornado. I was a very competitive player, and would brag on my rank almost every day. I'd even talk trash with the best of 'em. But now that I'm heading into my mid-twenties, work and home life have taken priority over halo. Plus I didn't like the person I was becoming when I was competitive; I could be a serious ***** to those around me when I found myself outmatched. So I turned away from it and became a "casual noob" as so many like to say. These days when I play, I have good games, and I have bad games. I try to win, but if I don't, eh, no big deal. And you know what, I've been pretty unfair to you Tornado. While the likes of Wargod still irritate me to no end, and are a prime example of why competitive players get a bad rap, you're not all that arrogant really. You can even be downright reasonable, and I'm sorry I've been so snippy and judgmental towards you. That wasn't very nice, and I apologize. I wouldn't be opposed to 343 implementing a Halo 3 style ranking system...so long as they created a social playlist for everyone else to have a good time in too.

^ My point proven.

Yup, we just couldn't get that 50. That *has* to be the reason we don't like the ranking system. We're jealous, that's all. *rolls eyes*

"in a way its about bragging rights." Vanity at its finest. Check! "Comparing to others..." A need to compare epeens. Check! "How will I know if they're good or not?" An inability to determine skill level beyond what a digital number represents. Check! So, in short, an arrogant individual that demands recognition and respect based on a number under their name. If it cannot be seen, then not only is it worthless to have, the individual also suffers the impairment of not being able to judge a like-minded soul, even though they will almost certainly become aware of the opponent's skill level once the opponent is engaged in-game. Sounds like the common ********* with a bad superiority complex, and further coupled with a severe sense of entitlement. Yup, sounds like a "Hardcore, Competitive" player; If they aren't complaining about the "OP Assault Rifle" or circle-jerking each other in regards to their "L33T 5Kills", they're crying about an "invisible" rank system. Go figure. You'd think they have lives of some sort, or at least something more important to worry about than whipping out their virtual wangs like a bunch of adolescent primitives looking for confirmation of their supposed "greatness". Guess not. : /

Ok, so I hate to be "that" nerd and all, but there's no such word as "jedis". The term "Jedi" is both singular and plural. And now I feel very unattractive. lol