Axilus Prime

ENOUGH! Ledgend is right, pro-town right now is being pathetic. A Mafian is giving us advice, and not advice of the sort that could throw us off! That alone should call attention to how stupid most of us are being. Voting for either Shinya or Destruct is a gamble. We are gambling on whether we kill a Mafian now, or learn one to kill later. There is NO third possibility. Voting for anyone ELSE on this list, however, is an even bigger gamble, on whether we're lucky enough to kill a Mafian now, or...whether we kill a civilian while learning absolutely nothing and 100% sealing our defeat. I don't know about you guys, but I think the choice here is obvious. I lean towards voting Shinya because Destruct's Game So Far posts would actually hurt his cause if he were Mafia. I mean, look at the scene 3 suspect list! He literally got himself killed with no benefit whatsoever if Shinya is innocent. So, I suggest whoever is voting for TK 666 to switch their vote. But as of this moment, I would advise all of you to consider any who cast or change their votes to kill anyone OTHER than Shinya and Destruct, as Mafia.

Shinya, the only reason I'm leaning in your direction is because Self Destruct's "Game so far" things would actually hurt his cause if he's Mafia. If not for that, I'd be all for allowing RNG to decide...but only between the two of you. Under no circumstances should anyone other than one of you two be killed this round. I would still find the notion of voting for one of the other two suspects this round a ludicrous and disgusting idea.

It doesn't matter WHAT the evidence against Mereel is this round, the fact is, if we vote him and he isn't Mafia we get NOTHING. But if we vote Shinya, then we either kill a Mafian or learn with ABSOLUTE certainty the identity of one. To vote anyone but Shinya is to gamble everything pro-town has done up until now, for no substantial benefit. Also, repeatedly showing up on the suspect list isn't proof of anything. Have you all forgotten that our last lynch on those grounds was a civvie? And Delpen, if there is a tie, we do NOT get a multikill, we surrender everything to chance. Surrender everything to an RNG? Forbid it! All those of sound mind and pro-town allegiance, do we take certainty, or do we take chance?

We get certainty this way though. And we can't afford to pass that up.

Vote Shinya Kogami as planned. We will either kill or discover a Mafian by this method, so...it's our best chance.

There cannot be a suspect list without the Mafian who committed the crime on it, nor do the Mafia get to choose who is on the list.

It's a little rusty, I'm kinda broke right now so I can't afford a better one.

Wait, what's pre-downloading? Does it mean the game can be played early?

I never said you were a mole. But this is literally the only way to ensure with total certainty that we catch a Mafian. One of you is, without doubt, Mafia. And pro-town's goal is not to win with minimal casualties, it is to win. Many pro-town have laid down their lives without hesitation, to that end.

So...there goes Grif... We have five civilians. Two Mafia. The game could still go either way. This means we'll need to weigh evidence better than we've been doing. Two wrong lynches and the Mafia win. I believe our best bet is to execute Shinya Kogami next. / Self Destruct + TheSilverCenturion / Shinya Kogami + Dexter Grief That is the third list. Destruct has been providing us with these lists, and so it is unlikely that he is Mafia. But on the off chance that he is, Shinya's death will reveal that fact. That means it will be impossible to get two wrong lynches in a row.

It's about time we got more of these beautiful things! Halo Waypoint's update brought us these! "I did not eat your muffin!" "Tell the truth!" "I'm not lying, holy one!" "It was me." And there you have them.

That's the Soldier...

Most protowns who are inactive are dead, and ghosts can't relay messages anymore so only those who wish to stay for strategy/advice purposes stay.

Actually it's not that complicated. We get a total of three extra roles and that's it. I actually kinda like this idea.

Which is either the perfect cover for being a Mafian, one that will allow you to say things that don't help pro-town at all....or you're pro-town but you suck at this game and should never play it again.

True, but I think we're better off just using our heads. It's been working so far, hasn't it?

Uh...in case you've forgotten...we can't double lynch anymore. Yang added that balance tweak at the beginning of this match so the Mafia would have a chance. It's forcing us to put more thought into our lynchings rather than being 80% assured a Mafia kill each round, so I'd say it's working.

That scene was well done. As for who to vote for...well, the case against Grif is strong enough. If not him, then almost certainly Delpen. Delpen is in the PM we know has a mole in it. And "losing interest" would be a perfect cover for his illogical, whim-based statements.

I did that too, Bnus. In this case though it's not an issue of deadlines, it's just confusion. Ledgend says they have chosen the target. Yang says they haven't. Anyway, I'm still in favor of running two games at once, so I guess I'll join.

The game is not unbalanced, nor is it dead. And if it ever becomes dead, that's on the players just as much as the host. If the host is slow, it does not excuse the players to be slow as well. That said, we should all pick up the pace. As for the confusion in the Mafia PM, the solution would naturally be to have both Mafia and host work it out as quickly and smoothly as possible.

Better late than never. Though I suggest you get the murder scene up early, if they've decided already.

You have a point there. Never came across a team in which every member had a SAW. ...and I hope I never do.