I_Make_Big_Boom

It's a rule change no matter how you try to spin it. It wasn't in the game page at the start of the game, and you never told us about it until now. And how do you expect us to fight against this? The Mafians SHOULD be forced to kill someone instead of hiding behind RNG.

Well the excuse is that once the Juggernaut was killed the Suspect List he was supposed to appear on went full RNG like the one we have now. So the possibility that 1 Mafian was on the list is the same as 4 Protowns. This is why I want Axilus to clarify, which he has not. I can see why. It could mean the end of Mafia. PM. I think I've said enough publicly, and I'm not giving the Mafians more information than they need.

Have I even voted for someone this entire game? Good, because I think Drizzy is deserving of a double-tap. I vote Drizzles.

You can suspect whoever you want, but we don't know who the Mafian is right now. Axilus refuses to reply to me, and we have no leads. At least from my point of view.

I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, but this Lynch is pure RNG unless proven otherwise. I'd advise you think before you decide to leave it to chance. You can vote if you still want to. But hey, I'm not their mom. Anyway, back to you. Didn't I say I no longer have evidence to prove that you're Mafian? That's my way of saying I'm not continuing with this "crusade" to get you lynched, because you're no longer priority 1 to me (also, my actions are not blind. I've been over this already). The priority is Axilus telling me what I need to know. PM time. If that information involves you, then you become the priority again: which is the confirmation or denial of what I previously thought the Suspect List without Ni Nihon was. The situation where your life is in danger no longer exists... or it has been postponed if you're REALLY a Mafian. If both Protown & Mafia refuse to kill anyone then we'll never get anywhere. Someone has to die at some point: self-sacrifice included which I'm willing to do even though it's really needless. There is ABSOLUTELY... let me re-stress this: ABSOLUTELY NO REASON why I should die this Lynch. No rational reason. At all. This list is pure RNG for all we know, and we already know I'm a Civilian. The other 3 are wild-cards. We have nothing to prove that 1 of them is really a Mafian. You continuing to vote for me makes me suspect you even more, but I'm not going to go overboard on a hunch. And even if I die I'll still be a loose canon. I won't magically disappear just because I'm dead.

Well if Axilus would confirm or deny it. We're in the dark here.

Lieutenant Dan, you ain't got no legs no more!

Idk, I guess I've been feeling like Mafia has been a little too predictable lately and I'm somehow exploiting it with the experience I have. That doesn't mean it's true since it's only from my perspective. We've tried to shake things up in the past and the masses have always shot down those ideas, and it's kinda burning me out. I'm not entirely bored but I feel there needs to be a resurgence of some sort. New life maybe? Awards to motivate people to play the game?

If the Mafians refuse to kill anyone then it goes to RNG. The Juggernaut made the decision, or was forced to do the Execution. Them being obliterated by the Vigilante does not change this. It was stated clearly that Frankenzer was killed by the Juggernaut. But since the Juggernaut was alive during the Execution, but dead BEFORE the Suspect List... apparently Axilus implemented a new rule altering the List into an RNG one, which is what it went to. I overlooked the RNG part. My bad. Still, my proof without the RNG aspect is solid, and I stand by it. That applies to everything oustide of RNG Suspect Lists, and it has been proven to work 100% of the times where RNG is not included. I did say that I'm logical about my decisions, didn't I? Also, killing Civilians is necessary in order to get to the real culprits. It's not possible otherwise. Everyone has resorted to "Oh, if Guy 1 is Protown then Guy 2 is Mafia", a declaration having had unanimous approval in the past (which doesn't work if RNG is in the Suspect List). But I don't go doing these things out of a desire to see that everyone does not survive the game. Like I said before I have a reason for doing this, and it's my way of playing the game. Don't like it? Don't follow my advice and/or speak up about it: which you have done. And I was convinced that you OR rrhunt were Mafians: not just rrhunt. Just because we convened in a PM doesn't mean I trust you, or held you above suspicion. Obviously I was right to since rrhunt was a Civilian, but now that I know the list is RNG I have no evidence to show that you're Mafian. So you're correct on that. Regarding the rule change this is the first time RNG has been used for the ENTIRE Suspect List AND wasn't the result of uninvolved Mafians not choosing anyone to die: at least that I'm aware of. It seems like a rule change mid-game rather than something included from the start. Not like I care, you can't create contingencies for every little thing. Still, it's not like I was looking out for it from the get-go. It's not even in the game page rules. I believe I'm allowed to make mistakes every once in a while, and of course I'll own up to them: like I'm doing now. Axilus: Question for you: Was the Suspect List with Ni Nihon PURE RNG, and with no ratio of how many Mafians would appear on it? So 4 Protowns can have a chance of appearing? Oh, and you voting for me is very irrational since I'm a Civilian. You did accuse me of trying to needlessly kill Civilians, and then turn around and vote for a confirmed one yourself. Though you can kill me if you really want to.

Can you be any more inconsistent? lol

Imma gonna kieel yu Nutral.

You know what? I'm just gonna say this. Yoshi has repeatedly confirmed in public that I am not a Mafian. He is the detective, so you know you can trust him. Yoshi was only able to investigate Drizzy, and myself. No one else. There is NO way to confirm your innocence otherwise. Mafians are allowed to leave their Group PM, and can create new ones that fill the same role. But if that's not enough, let's look at my record: In the very first round I voted to kill Wam. His death was decided by a single vote - so if I'd wanted to save him, all I'd have had to do is vote for someone else. That's all it would have taken. But I voted for him, and because of that we killed a Mafian in the first round. I made it clear that I wanted to kill Drizzy. I didn't have a good reason for that, I just like the idea of killing a staff member. This is admittedly flukey, but it's a point in my favour all the same. In the last round, I voted for rrhuntington. I feel bad about that, but I'm far from the only person who made that mistake. So, let's state this nice and clear so everyone can see it: I am personally responsible for the death of one Mafian, and made it clear that I intended to kill someone else who turned out to be one. Mafians can vote fellow Mafians without any repercussions, or penalties. It's legal, and secures a Mafian's cover. Supposedly anyway. I'm not sure what I've done to offend you, SD, but enough is enough. Frankly at this point I no longer care if you're innocent or not because you seem intent on ruining my first game to the point of trying to get me killed even when I'm not actually on the list. So you know what? Even though I know you're innocent, I'm tempted to vote to lynch you anyway, because if you're not going to work with the only other person who has been 100% confirmed as not being Mafian, then you're an active hindrance to the rest of us civilians and frankly, we can do without you causing distractions and creating cover for whoever the Mafian actually is. Your call, SD. If you're not going to help me win this game then just stay out of my way, but otherwise I'm going to tear off your helmet and watch you choke to death. Please don't take this personally, I'm only doing what's logical, and it's not because I hate you for what you've done: which I don't. It's a game after all. And if Protown is going to win there needs to be someone pulling the strings. A plan of action. Otherwise Protown will literally be a chicken with it's head cut off. I should know because I've seen it happen in the myriad of games I've been involved in: Player or Host. Whether or not I fill this role is uncertain, but I'm going to try anyway. I always try to remain as correct as possible, and I do not try to hide mistakes: correcting them as fast as I can. However, you can ignore my advice at any time. No one's forcing you to listen to me. Granted, my playstyle is a tad aggressive I admit. I think being a host for so many games has allowed me to wield a little too much information regarding how the Mafians work, so I think this will be the last game I play. Might be an unfair advantage. Anyway, I KNOW you're Mafian. How? Well this: Suspect List: Self Destruct, Civilian rrhuntington, Civilian RedStarRocket91, ??? BATMAN, Vigilante The Mafians killed someone that Round, so it's not pure RNG. There is at least 1 Mafian here: no less, and we've already confirmed the identities of 3/4 people here. It's you.

The second they do an Execution or RSR reappears on the Suspect List they'll lose. RSR is the last Mafian. None of the people on this Suspect List are Mafians.

I triple dog dare you.

The BATMAN is the Vigilante, so that rules out both herself, and myself from the suspected suspecting... suspect? Ts? Whatever. The Mafian is either RSR, or rrhunt.

RSR seems like the best choice. Wet behind the ears? Pulled the innocent card? No one would suspect a thing. The game's not that complex, and I'm sure he's figured out the gist of it all by now. Though it could really be any of the three listed above. Even so, if we do not kill the Mafian this Round they'll reappear on the next. The person who's on BOTH of those Suspect Lists will be the Mafian.

So rrhunt's a Mafian?

That was quick. Open season again, kill either RSR, rrhunt, or Batsy.

I KNEW IT.

R/? since I have sigs disabled, and I cannot marvel at the beauty of yours. So tragic.

I remember the time when I admitted I was a Mafian to everyone in the SB during the infamous UNSC Spartan II v Self Destruct Lynch of Mafia 6.0. No one believed me... but I actually was one.

There's 1 unconfirmed Mafian left. Once we discover their identity... check, and soon mate.

Holy crap, I was right. I wasn't even serious. Good for me. Adda-boy. I deserve a treat I'm so good. Beggin-Strips preferably.

So Ni Nihon or Frankenzer are the Mafians?

There's no RNG margarita man.