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I was really disheartened when Arena Doubles was removed from ranked play. It was more populated than Arena Slayer and FFA combined and had a dedicated group of players. It was the only game type I truly enjoyed playing and I maintained 3 accounts during that time. Placing Team Doubles in "Competitive" and drastically changing it from what it was before was no answer. They should have left Arena Doubles alone. How many of you played it, feel it should have been left or believe it needs to be returned? Should 343ind. give a complete ranked play list a chance or is it too late to correct the ranked issue? Halo games have always had ranked play and even though Reach had many gaffs, in my opinion, removing and even not having a comprehensive "ranked" play lists was a failure.

I guess what really annoyed and surprised me was that it was ranked doubles, not a game type I really ran into that kind of behavior. I realize now from posts it is a glitch unique to the map. It is a behavior I have seen more in Reach than I ever did in Halo.

What? Ignoring you is the best solution. People have repeated stated their thoughts and ideas and you childishly repeat, like a parrot, "Examples, examples!"

I am in the camp of players who like Halo the way it was. The whole game was about playing as John 117. When they allowed player to start playing as Elites I was not really thrilled about it playing as one myself. That is when you started noticing that you were not playing on a level playing field to some degree. Everyone who played swat knew this because an Elite was harder to kill. I accepted the idea because I understood so many people liked or wanted the chance to play the Elite. For me the story, the game, and the franchise has always been about "The Spartan" John 117. ODST campaign and Reach campaign and MM have only provided years of an antagonistic feeling towards a game and the company that produced it. The thought of playing a multitude of different characters, changing facial features and having and endless string of "customizable" this or that does not interest me at all. Instead of continuing to get further away from the heart of this game and loose even more fans, there needs to be an effort to return to it's roots. I once used an analogy about Ford having the Mustang as a hallmark car for so many years, much like Bungies Halo CE, 2 & 3. Then they create the Mustang II, Reach for Bungie, and loose the fans of the car. Sure some bought and loved their little pony, but real enthusiasts turned their backs and walked away. Ford realized that the "heart" of the mustang needed to return to that nameplate, and look where the mustang is today. 343ind. has the golden opportunity to bring the "heart" back to the game. I hope they do.

She is her own best argument against herself sometimes! lol

Added a poll to the thread, sorry, should have been there from the beginning.

There ya go! harder than I post, but the point none the less!

I missed this post earlier Braver, nicely put.

I hear you. It was only offered as an idea that would encourage people in another way to attempt sprees.

I got what you meant, think they were just having some fun.

Actually I had never seen that before. I really liked it, nicely timed scenes cut to the music.

Being that you will most likely be on a forerunner world the vehicles may be unlike anything we have seen. If Pelicans and other ships are available in some Big Team game type there would have to be larger scale maps and some type of weapon to counter them. Unless there is a human presence or one that follows the Chief, Warthogs, mongoose etc. may be a thing of the past. To me it is what makes waiting for a new game in the Halo series exciting. I really do not have any expectation for vehicles to be honest, I rarely use them since I only play Big Team or Multi-Team when dragged kicking and screaming into it. I do support the Big Team playlist in the forums and certainly hope there is a lot of new vehicles for you guys to play with. If I could offer one dream vehicle idea it would be similar to the modded turret from the Spectra of Halo 2 days that some modders used to fly around maps and reek havic with. This is what the looked like.

Now that is what I need right there....AARP approved gaming! LMAO

With all do respect Mystic, everyone, and I mean everyone, knows that Reach takes place long before the Halo series as you point out. Halo 4 follows Halo 3 and you are playing as the Chief again, not a Noble team member. The Chief does not need AA's from the "distant" past, he never has before. By calling Reach a "stand alone game" I was referring to the fact that you, for the first time in MM are playing as some one other than the Chief. Players should be willing to accept the fact that the AA's will not continue beyond Reach is all I am saying. You refer to polls that are in forums and different sites I assume. Many players of the game never join sites like this and therefore never vote in polls. Almost 9 million people bought Reach and less than 100,000 continue to play it. That is a vote right there. Hopefully they will return when the particulars of Halo 4 are shared and it hits the market. The people who have given up on the series for now are no less or more fans of Halo than any who currently play Reach. It appears that a majority of players who play Reach do like the AA's in one form or another. They are not the entire population of the Halo fans. Yes you will here more props for AA's in current forums because of the active population playing Reach. I accepted long ago that Bungie was trying to bring something different to the franchise, but like many saw Reach as to big of a departure from the original. There is not a desire from anyone I know to play the "same flipping game" over and over again. Time passes, graphics improve, advances are made in both gaming technology and in game story technologies. Last, if you honestly believe that the game play changed "just a tiny bit" from H3 to Reach......I do not know what to say to that other than it was a wholesale change.

I have taken the time to review this entire thread. There are a lot of really good ideas in here, as well as some very silly ones. I would definitely like some of these ideas implemented into the H 4 forge. keep up the good work guys.

Mystic, just so you know, I believe the AA's should stay in Reach. Reach is a stand alone game away from the series of Halo, that is a fact. The point is, this discussion is taking place in a Halo 4 forum. The idea is clear that most players of the Halo games do not want the AA's to continue beyond Reach. Personally I truly believe it is a mute point because 343ind. will respect the Halo franchise and it's fans. They have never once given any indication of AA's beyond Reach.

I apologize Mayhem. When I initially viewed your OP I scanned it to see how long it was and my eyes caught the re-posted ideas, my bad. There is a "pinned" Forge topic, but that does not mean you can not start your own. Again sorry for the "quick" comment.

I did like the final campaign level a lot because of that happening to your visor. Made you "feel" the pain of death that was certain to come. Not sure of how hard it would be to implement, but it would give the "damaged" player limited vision and even help to diminish the snipers ability.I like this. You should consider adding a public poll for this.

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...a "Pizza Day" holiday to.....

That is true, so I just shaved "aaron ehrhart" off my butt and feel much better! The person above me lives in the only other state I would like to live in. (I really like gumbo!) The person below me will not be aaron ehrhart! lol

Maybe the "spam bots" are gone, but "aaron ehrhart" has replaced them!

I heard that Hunter roasted marsh mellows on the trolls burning body while Vitamin PWN looked on laughing hideously! I have heard rumors that Avenging Crusade swung from a vine and swooped down and saved Jane from Tarzans unwanted advances! I saw Kurt ***** slap a "Dear 343..." poster so hard they soiled themselves and haven't bathed since! I heard One once debated evolution with Steven Hawking and won! I read a report that Spartan 007 threw a bullet by hand and killed 23 terrorists! I heard that Zed once ate a fish taco the size Texas in one bite and never burped! It is widely known that all members of the 343Industries Forum could whoop Chuck Norris' butt with one hand tied behind their back!

If you, at 48, try to teach your 84 year old mother to play Reach just so you can hook it up to hear TV while visiting!