l Lochlan l Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 just want to talk about the Didact. the Didact as we know doesnt particularly get along with humans and after his reawakening (is this just accepted as general knowledge now or..?) probably wont be happy with the situation around him. but in order to combat the UNSC/ other factions he will need something more then what is on requiem unless it is also some form of death star. so im guessing he will probably leave 3 quarters or more into the game from requiem, to do something forerunnery that wont be in the best interest of humans. how does he plan to combat and retain control of the galaxy? using what? surely he can just mass produce prometheans. on that why would he want to retake the galaxy, the only remaining forerunners arent even in the galaxy, he has no reason to fight really the librarians gone after all. Also the didact obviously goes to war with the UNSC. he knows fully well that the humans are inheritors to the mantle (if we are to believe what the precursor/gravemind/evolved sea scorpion said). he believes in the mantle and as such should be preserving life with the humans. does he plan on taking the mantle somehow? last point. do you think to didact will experience some form of inner struggle (akin to cortana) as he is still in a way bornstellar? do you think bornstellars previously positive interactions with humans may have an effect on whats to come? sorry for any wrong information havent reread the books in ages, but just interested to see some other peoples opinions on these matters and how they may be intergrated into the campaign story-wise. please feel free to voice you're opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerdude1635 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Interesting new antagonist, I will love to see the story surrounding him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l Lochlan l Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 i think the covenant and prometheans fighting together is an interesting twist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventus Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Didact seems like a very interesting character, and I hope we'll get to see or hear a lot of him in Halo 4. I'm guessing he will go to war the UNSC, but Chief will probably sort it out as he always does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robius5991 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I'm not too sure about how the Didact will go about in story, but he seems like a cool new enemy. Also, I had a question. Are we "humans" Inheritors, like you mentionned? Because I thought we were "Reclaimers" - or is that just the spartans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hᴜᴍᴘsᴛʏʟᴇs Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I'm not too sure about how the Didact will go about in story, but he seems like a cool new enemy. Also, I had a question. Are we "humans" Inheritors, like you mentionned? Because I thought we were "Reclaimers" - or is that just the spartans... Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Chakas who was infused into 343 Guilty Spark by the Composer called Master Chief a Reclaimer because he appears humanoid with 2 arms, 2 legs, and a head all on a torso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventus Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Didact somehow reminds me of the movie Prometheus. Pretty much the same concept. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryu♥Hayabusa Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Chakas who was infused into 343 Guilty Spark by the Composer called Master Chief a Reclaimer because he appears humanoid with 2 arms, 2 legs, and a head all on a torso. He knows Chief is a human immediately. He knew as soon as the Autumn came within range of the ring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-1609 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I personally think the Didact's enraged for the destruction of the Halo Array. He used it to (supposedly) kill his wife, the Librarian. Learning that she might be alive can be too much for him, and just goes berserk on Chief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer K34 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I personally think the Didact's enraged for the destruction of the Halo Array. He used it to (supposedly) kill his wife, the Librarian. Learning that she might be alive can be too much for him, and just goes berserk on Chief. im just going to let that one slide and asume you didnt read the books 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory of a Far Dawn Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Didact didn't want to use the Array, Lolz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restrepo Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I've read all the books, and the ones pertaining to the forerunners story and how their relationship with humans was like back hundreds of thousands of years ago is extremely intriguing. I won't go into any spoilers but theres a lot of information on Didact and maybe clues to his intentions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra1117 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 just want to talk about the Didact. the Didact as we know doesnt particularly get along with humans and after his reawakening (is this just accepted as general knowledge now or..?) probably wont be happy with the situation around him. but in order to combat the UNSC/ other factions he will need something more then what is on requiem unless it is also some form of death star. so im guessing he will probably leave 3 quarters or more into the game from requiem, to do something forerunnery that wont be in the best interest of humans. how does he plan to combat and retain control of the galaxy? using what? surely he can just mass produce prometheans. on that why would he want to retake the galaxy, the only remaining forerunners arent even in the galaxy, he has no reason to fight really the librarians gone after all. Also the didact obviously goes to war with the UNSC. he knows fully well that the humans are inheritors to the mantle (if we are to believe what the precursor/gravemind/evolved sea scorpion said). he believes in the mantle and as such should be preserving life with the humans. does he plan on taking the mantle somehow? last point. do you think to didact will experience some form of inner struggle (akin to cortana) as he is still in a way bornstellar? do you think bornstellars previously positive interactions with humans may have an effect on whats to come? sorry for any wrong information havent reread the books in ages, but just interested to see some other peoples opinions on these matters and how they may be intergrated into the campaign story-wise. please feel free to voice you're opinion. while Bornstellar could be in the game, I think the Ur-Didact will be the antagonist of the game Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Chakas who was infused into 343 Guilty Spark by the Composer called Master Chief a Reclaimer because he appears humanoid with 2 arms, 2 legs, and a head all on a torso. chakas wasn't infused into Spark, he was out into a completely different monitor, so he is still Chakas, not 343 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restrepo Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Well the mantle is the birthright of humanity, as we're the forerunners who retained the mantle and saw the humans as a worthy species to inherit it. Hence the name "inheritor", I assume. The covenant want to awaken Didact, the ancient evil that 343 hinted at. They revere Didact as a god obviously and want to receive power and possibly the mantle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarknessX03 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 I think he's a very interesting antagonist, at least as far as Halo antagonists go. I can imagine that there is a big mystery behind his whole origin, and I love characters like that. I'm excited to see how this all plays out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hᴜᴍᴘsᴛʏʟᴇs Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 chakas wasn't infused into Spark, he was out into a completely different monitor, so he is still Chakas, not 343 "Although his physical body was eventually killed, his mind survived in the form of the Forerunner monitor, 343 Guilty Spark" sourced from: http://www.halopedia.org/Chakas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Element Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 i dont we should even be talking about the Didact until we know which one it is. Its either the ur-didact(original) or the bornstellar didact, and they could end up very different 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slenderman Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 precursor/gravemind/evolved sea scorpion said lol, evolved sea scorpion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hᴜᴍᴘsᴛʏʟᴇs Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 i dont we should even be talking about the Didact until we know which one it is. Its either the ur-didact(original) or the bornstellar didact, and they could end up very different I thought that the Ur-Didact was left to be devoured by the Flood? The only reason his name was changed to "Ur-Didact" is because his imprint on Bornstellar was in full force, ultimately becoming the Didact himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer K34 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 I thought that the Ur-Didact was left to be devoured by the Flood? The only reason his name was changed to "Ur-Didact" is because his imprint on Bornstellar was in full force, ultimately becoming the Didact himself. the Ur in the name means original, so in other words it means original didact Well the mantle is the birthright of humanity, as we're the forerunners who retained the mantle and saw the humans as a worthy species to inherit it. Hence the name "inheritor", I assume. The covenant want to awaken Didact, the ancient evil that 343 hinted at. They revere Didact as a god obviously and want to receive power and possibly the mantle. the didact is what 343i sid will be master chiefs nemisis, but he is not the ancient evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hᴜᴍᴘsᴛʏʟᴇs Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 the Ur in the name means original, so in other words it means original didact Yes, I know, I was trying to point out that the Ur-Didact was left to be devoured by the Flood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 i dont we should even be talking about the Didact until we know which one it is. Its either the ur-didact(original) or the bornstellar didact, and they could end up very different Agreed. 343 have so much power with the Didact, simply because they can visualise him how they see fit. This is in no small part thanks to how the Forerunner civilisation was structured, where family members would undergo mutations, resulting in an interesting form. As we know, the original Didact was of Promethean-Warrior class, and Bornstellar was Manipulator to begin with, and after his brevet mutation, ended up with a mixture of Manipulator, Promethean-Warrior, and Lifeworker. Please correct me if I'm wrong the Ur in the name means original, so in other words it means original didact the didact is what 343i sid will be master chiefs nemisis, but he is not the ancient evil. I have someone in mind about who could be the ancient evil. If it is them, then the voice over that said "I have long waited for this day, Reclaimer" will fit perfectly with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer K34 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Agreed. 343 have so much power with the Didact, simply because they can visualise him how they see fit. This is in no small part thanks to how the Forerunner civilisation was structured, where family members would undergo mutations, resulting in an interesting form. As we know, the original Didact was of Promethean-Warrior class, and Bornstellar was Manipulator to begin with, and after his brevet mutation, ended up with a mixture of Manipulator, Promethean-Warrior, and Lifeworker. Please correct me if I'm wrong I have someone in mind about who could be the ancient evil. If it is them, then the voice over that said "I have long waited for this day, Reclaimer" will fit perfectly with them. hmm, i hve some theories too....one of them lead to an acient evil being human Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slenderman Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 the Ur in the name means original, so in other words it means original didact the didact is what 343i sid will be master chiefs nemisis, but he is not the ancient evil. If the prometheans AND the Didact aren't the ancient evil and all the enemies have been revealed what else could there be? o.O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra1117 Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 "Although his physical body was eventually killed, his mind survived in the form of the Forerunner monitor, 343 Guilty Spark" sourced from: http://www.halopedia.org/Chakas dont believe everything you see on halopedia, and I'p said that because in the novel you NEVER hear Cahaks refer to himself as 343 GS, he always calls himself Chakas, the ONI science team made the conjecture that the monitor was 343, so you're basically stating an unidentified forerunner ancilla is 343 GS because humans said so, which isn't much proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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