FaTaL Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I don't know where you pulled those stats from but i dont think i have ever placed 14th? I dont even think there is a playlist on H4 with 14 places? Don't try to fabricate my placements to invalidate my opinion buddy Ok, here. Look for yourself, "Buddy" https://app.halowayp...ntics/wargames/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A7xBTF Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I don't know where you pulled those stats from but i dont think i have ever placed 14th? I dont even think there is a playlist on H4 with 14 places? Don't try to fabricate my placements to invalidate my opinion buddy Did you completely forget that Big Team is a playlist or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaTaL Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Oh you are so right i am now doubting my ability to play halo wait i have a 2.2 kd in halo 4 and i don't steal peoples assassination. Man how on earth did i ever get those kills without blatantly taking them away from all my team members. Ok so lets get this straight so your saying killing someone that is getting assassinated is helping the team more then focusing on something else. An assist in this game is worth more then a kill and you basically get your kills from taking other peoples assassinations and you think i am criticizing your play style. K/D means nothing, I know many people with K/D of 4 with 5K+ kills from boosting, I know people who camp BTB and farm kills, etc. It all comes down to wins/losses. I destroy people with high K/D daily. Here is what I don't get. You are telling me that in no way shape or form does an Assist result in a kill for another team player? I do believe in order for an assist to occur, another team mate has to make a kill...Therefor assist=Kill. IT IS SIMPLE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkItZo1041 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 That actually would still be an assassination, just so you are properly informed. And finally let me settle this dispute. Maybe if you would just TAP the bumper and save yourself the ranting about others taking your kill. If you do the animation then you deserve your kill to be stolen. I would honestly laugh if I had the chance to take your kill. Do not present an opportunity if you do not wish another to capitalize on it. I know what I'm talking about. I've done this since Reach, and it is still this way in 4. I've even taken the next step, starting a custom game with a guest on another controller, just to test it. 10 times out of 10, it was a beat down. I tried right up next to the back, further away, moving up, down, left, right, everything. Heck, even if you tap it in mid-air, it will NOT be an assassination. And you were just talking about stealing an assassination being a very smart, competitive move. Now, you word it as "I would honestly laugh if I had the chance to take your kill." Yes, very smart indeed. Forget killing the people shooting at me, let's kill the one bound by another spartan's grip. BTW, win/loss isn't what it used to be. I don't know how many hopeless games I've joined into the middle of, just to be dealt a loss and 700 xp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A7xBTF Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I know what I'm talking about. I've done this since Reach, and it is still this way in 4. I've even taken the next step, starting a custom game with a guest on another controller, just to test it. 10 times out of 10, it was a beat down. I tried right up next to the back, further away, moving up, down, left, right, everything. Heck, even if you tap it in mid-air, it will NOT be an assassination. And you were just talking about stealing an assassination being a very smart, competitive move. Now, you word it as "I would honestly laugh if I had the chance to take your kill." Yes, very smart indeed. Forget killing the people shooting at me, let's kill the one bound by another spartan's grip. Since Reach? Wow you got me there. And I've done customs as well. It works the way it should, a tap is a hit to the back, holding it down gets an assassination. However, in matchmaking, it doesn't do it like that 100% of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedzish Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 K/D means nothing, I know many people with K/D of 4 with 5K+ kills from boosting, I know people who camp BTB and farm kills, etc. It all comes down to wins/losses. I destroy people with high K/D daily. Here is what I don't get. You are telling me that in no way shape or form does an Assist result in a kill for another team player? I do believe in order for an assist to occur, another team mate has to make a kill...Therefor assist=Kill. IT IS SIMPLE. Spoken like someone with a 1.31 KD...... lol i have played about 20 more games then you and i am far superior to you in every stat...... little fun fact you have 300 more deaths then me..... I wonder who people would want more on there team someone who claims they destroy people with 2 point kds that will steal your assassinations from you thinks assists are worth more then kills and has a 1.3 kd also claims he is a team player.... or me. lolza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaTaL Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I know what I'm talking about. I've done this since Reach, and it is still this way in 4. I've even taken the next step, starting a custom game with a guest on another controller, just to test it. 10 times out of 10, it was a beat down. I tried right up next to the back, further away, moving up, down, left, right, everything. Heck, even if you tap it in mid-air, it will NOT be an assassination. And you were just talking about stealing an assassination being a very smart, competitive move. Now, you word it as "I would honestly laugh if I had the chance to take your kill." Yes, very smart indeed. Forget killing the people shooting at me, let's kill the one bound by another spartan's grip. It is an assassination if you hit the player in the back....simple as that. There is an option to do an animation by holding the bumper. And I am happy for you, such a loyal fan since reach! I have been playing halo online since Halo Combat Evolved. And before you say anything about CE not being online compatible let me just tell you now that it IS and it is called XBC. Just in case you were wondering. Lol. Anyone who is half way decent would know better than to focus on a player being assassinated if other enemies were around. But, I really honestly don't care. If other enemies were around then why in the hell would my team mate be doing the animation in the first place. Yeah, I would steal a kill no matter who's kills it was. Your name is not written on the kill cam until YOU put the final bullet/beat down/ grenade into the opponents body. You are trolling now..Just quit while you are ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A7xBTF Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Spoken like someone with a 1.31 KD...... lol i have played about 20 more games then you and i am far superior to you in every stat...... little fun fact you have 300 more deaths then me..... I wonder who people would want more on there team someone who claims they destroy people with 2 point kds that will steal your assassinations from you thinks assists are worth more then kills and has a 1.3 kd also claims he is a team player.... or me. lolza You think K/D is an efficient way to judge how good someone is? lol please. Actually, judging someone based on any stat is idiotic. There are multiple factors that play into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaTaL Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Spoken like someone with a 1.31 KD...... lol i have played about 20 more games then you and i am far superior to you in every stat...... little fun fact you have 300 more deaths then me..... I wonder who people would want more on there team someone who claims they destroy people with 2 point kds that will steal your assassinations from you thinks assists are worth more then kills and has a 1.3 kd also claims he is a team player.... or me. lolza PLEASE add me on xbox live, let's play a 1v1 match. Your map your settings. Just so I can post the game on here afterwards. Do me a favor and let us play this. K/D Means NOTHING. Kills in an objective game mean NOTHING. Look at my game history, ODD BALL, CTF, KOTH are all my main games. Those are Objective game types meaning killing is NOT the main focus point of the game. Scoring is, Slayer is not even fun. So before you put my K/D on blast why don't you do some digging first? Last time I checked K/D was in no way a stat to look at in Objective game types. Add me, lets do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkItZo1041 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Since Reach? Wow you got me there. And I've done customs as well. It works the way it should, a tap is a hit to the back, holding it down gets an assassination. However, in matchmaking, it doesn't do it like that 100% of the time. Took my guest into a game of Regicide, same results. And yea, since Reach. I know, right? Sarcasm's just so great huh. It is an assassination if you hit the player in the back....simple as that. There is an option to do an animation by holding the bumper. And I am happy for you, such a loyal fan since reach! I have been playing halo online since Halo Combat Evolved. And before you say anything about CE not being online compatible let me just tell you now that it IS and it is called XBC. Just in case you were wondering. Lol. Anyone who is half way decent would know better than to focus on a player being assassinated if other enemies were around. But, I really honestly don't care. If other enemies were around then why in the hell would my team mate be doing the animation in the first place. Yeah, I would steal a kill no matter who's kills it was. Your name is not written on the kill cam until YOU put the final bullet/beat down/ grenade into the opponents body. You are trolling now..Just quit while you are ahead. No, didn't play 2, yea, played 3, big whoop. Sorry assassination animations weren't around then. Trolling? You're the one trying to prove an empty point. I'll correct my grammar. It is referred to as a "Beat down" if you tap the bumper, and an "assassination" if you hold it. Better for you? I'm sorry I obviously didn't make that clear enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A7xBTF Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Took my guest into a game of Regicide, same results. And yea, since Reach. I know, right? Sarcasm's just so great huh. Good for you? Edit: And yea, sarcasm is pretty great. Sorry I ever crossed the wisdom of such a longtime halo player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedzish Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 PLEASE add me on xbox live, let's play a 1v1 match. Your map your settings. Just so I can post the game on here afterwards. Do me a favor and let us play this. K/D Means NOTHING. Kills in an objective game mean NOTHING. Look at my game history, ODD BALL, CTF, KOTH are all my main games. Those are Objective game types meaning killing is NOT the main focus point of the game. Scoring is, Slayer is not even fun. So before you put my K/D on blast why don't you do some digging first? Last time I checked K/D was in no way a stat to look at in Objective game types. Add me, lets do this. lol your accusing me of not being a good team player i thought you would just like to know some stats before you continued..... And yes you do play allot of objective games where killing is not the main goal does that mean your 1.3 KD is also a little inflated and somewhat farmed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaTaL Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 lol your accusing me of not being a good team player i thought you would just like to know some stats before you continued..... And yes you do play allot of objective games where killing is not the main goal does that mean your 1.3 KD is also a little inflated and somewhat farmed? Yes Inflated by getting MASSIVE amount of kills with the Oddball and the Flag in my hand, or maybe kills holding down the hill!!! That is a good way to just get such great kills!! Jesus you are a lost cause. I am through here, Add me if you would like a 1v1. Otherwise do not reply to this, I will not read it and I will not reply. Just note, your assassinations are not safe with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viadd Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I love stealing those, really funny, and I take it as a count for all frag stolen which transforms as an assist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Anderson Posted November 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 FaTaL. I haven't replied to my own post because I just finished laughing at how ridiculous you sound. Your logic... or whatever you want to call that is grossly embarrassing to this community. 1.) The fact that you arn't focusing on other enemies while your teammate has someone in a chokehold is joke. I feel bad for anyone and everyone you play with. 2.) Accepting the fact that someone shouldn't do the animation while other enemies are visibly near, you should not help or "assist" a teammate that is not in need of assistance. i.e..If your teammate is slitting a helpless enemies throat. Please continue on your way of amateur gaming and childish antics. Although they are shameful and useless, Ive gotten a kick out of it. So thank you. I'm sure you won't see through your stubbornness, so myself and others will continue to give you bad reviews on your gamer profile so we can slowly weed out the people who are not able to strategize and think BEFORE they pull the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaTaL Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Justin, You would give a player bad reviews over a few forums posts. Not only are they just forum post, but they are in response to a topic that was posted on a PUBLIC domain. Forums are sort of like Facebook, if you post something opinionated and arguable then you will most likely get a reply that you could either agree with or disagree with. I posted an opinionated statement that you carried out of hand. Who cares if someone stole your kill, you reporting the gamer for it will do nothing except get you banned for false reporting. This topic got a little TOO heated, I will admit I posted some useless and un-needed posts on here. But, I will agree we ALL dropped to that level. Immature, I know. So I am KINDLY asking for all of us to move on with this and forget about it. Sound good? In all reality it is all in the perspective of any given gamer to voice their opinion on different matters. As seen here. So go on about your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antics Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Ok, here. Look for yourself, "Buddy" https://app.halowayp...ntics/wargames/ So cos i go in to big team with a full party of 8 and don't contribute a real lot cos i am playing with my mates invalidates my opinion and what i do in FFA's? I shouldn't have to explain the context of every game i play to you bud. Justin, You would give a player bad reviews over a few forums posts. Not only are they just forum post, but they are in response to a topic that was posted on a PUBLIC domain. Forums are sort of like Facebook, if you post something opinionated and arguable then you will most likely get a reply that you could either agree with or disagree with. I posted an opinionated statement that you carried out of hand. Who cares if someone stole your kill, you reporting the gamer for it will do nothing except get you banned for false reporting. This topic got a little TOO heated, I will admit I posted some useless and un-needed posts on here. But, I will agree we ALL dropped to that level. Immature, I know. So I am KINDLY asking for all of us to move on with this and forget about it. Sound good? In all reality it is all in the perspective of any given gamer to voice their opinion on different matters. As seen here. So go on about your life. Dude no one takes forum posts too seriously and anyone that does has issues lol. For me anyway i've seen you around and you contribute to the topic i quite like what you have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epique Phael Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 It is anyone's game, an assist is just as good as a kill in my opinion. Why are you complaining about a guy on YOUR TEAM getting a kill? How low can you go? Because assassinations are few and far apart for some and when they do happen, people like to enjoy them. Also because there is armor you can unlock for getting them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Yoink does make you angry, usualy because I remember back on reach I played a game of slayer; my friend and I were playing in a party of 2, our teammates were a Colonel and Brigadier. I remember my friend and I getting majority points, one of our teammates (I think Colonel) didn't get any kill, his only kill was stealing my assasination. I got really worked up after that, his K/D was 1/17. Kind of a reason to get you angry, yoinks do need removed, all people do is yoink you and that's all they can get for kills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epique Phael Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Yoink does make you angry, usualy because I remember back on reach I played a game of slayer; my friend and I were playing in a party of 2, our teammates were a Colonel and Brigadier. I remember my friend and I getting majority points, one of our teammates (I think Colonel) didn't get any kill, his only kill was stealing my assasination. I got really worked up after that, his K/D was 1/17. Kind of a reason to get you angry, yoinks do need removed, all people do is yoink you and that's all they can get for kills. I've seen entire games where someone will follow someone else and only shoot to nab a headshot and take a kill. There's really nothing you can do about leechers except add them to xbox's avoid list and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 I've seen entire games where someone will follow someone else and only shoot to nab a headshot and take a kill. There's really nothing you can do about leechers except add them to xbox's avoid list and move on. That's a type of boosing right there. That shouldn't be happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epique Phael Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 That's a type of boosing right there. That shouldn't be happening. It isn't to me (except for one instance), and it only happens when there's a party, so I'm not sure if it is leeching or if it's some new tactic I've never heard of. The one instance was when it was a guy trying to grief me, even tried to take my ordinance drop. Never knew people took accidental betrayals via ghostboosting over a hill with no visibility so seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 It isn't to me (except for one instance), and it only happens when there's a party, so I'm not sure if it is leeching or if it's some new tactic I've never heard of. The one instance was when it was a guy trying to grief me, even tried to take my ordinance drop. Never knew people took accidental betrayals via ghostboosting over a hill with no visibility so seriously. Taking someone elses Ordinance drop uses a timer, it takes 5 seconds to secure it. Either way he would've failed unless you would've died. And getting betrayed by a ghost is a little reasonable, they don't have a brake and they still do drive a little after boosting is stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epique Phael Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Taking someone elses Ordinance drop uses a timer, it takes 5 seconds to secure it. Either way he would've failed unless you would've died. And getting betrayed by a ghost is a little reasonable, they don't have a brake and they still do drive a little after boosting is stopped. I'm not sure about the ordinance timer. I've called down sniper rifles to give a teammate more talented than myself ammo, and the second it drops they'll look at me, then to it, then to me, and then they'll take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 I'm not sure about the ordinance timer. I've called down sniper rifles to give a teammate more talented than myself ammo, and the second it drops they'll look at me, then to it, then to me, and then they'll take it. They were probably taking it the entire time thinking that you wouldn't notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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