What happened to the Elites?

[CommonDiscipIe]

I thought that the Covenant was supposed to have better technology than the humans. Let's review that.

 

WEAPONS

 

First thing I would like to point out, is that human weapons have great damage against Covenant vehicles, where as Covenant Weapons, besides the Plasma Pistol, are horrid against vehicles.

 

Assault Rifle vs. Plasma Repeater- They both have the exact same damage, except the Plasma Repeater projectiles take time to reach their target. So you have to aim the Repeater, but not the Assault Rifle. That's fair. /sarcasm. And I know that most are going to think, "Well you don't have to reload the Repeater, so you can kill AR users while they reload!!" So what you are saying, is that they need to miss enough bullets in their magazine, so that they have to reload? So you can only win against a scrub. Assault Rifle wins.

 

Needle Rifle vs. DMR- This is debatable. The DMR takes one less shot to kill, and zooms in farther, so the more skilled players will almost always win against a Needle Rifle user. IMO, DMR wins.

 

Plasma Pistol vs. Magnum- The Plasma Pistol is only good when paired up with another non-power weapon. But we are comparing 1v1, so obviously the Magnum wins.

 

Sword vs. Shotgun- The Sword is plagued by Sword block, and the time during a lunge/ melee gives shotgun users time to shoot. The Shotgun has more range, and is faster, and if you do screw up with the shotgun you can just sword block, and get another chance. Shotgun Wins.

 

Sniper vs. Focus Rifle- The Focus rifle is required to aim, and directly hit the enemy for 2/3 consecutive seconds, giving the user plenty of time to AL, Sprint to cover, make a callout, etc. The Sniper Rifle will kill them immediately, and they won't know what happened until they are dead. The Sniper also has farther zoom than the Focus Rifle. Sniper Wins.

 

Plasma Launcher vs. Rocket Launcher- The Rocket Launcher is obviously better at killing infantry, and I also have an easier time destroying air vehicles with it. The Plasma Launcher, is no doubt better at destroying ground vehicles at range. The Rocket can also be fired as soon as you need it. Rocket Wins.

 

FRG vs. Rocket Launcher- Again, debatlable. The Rocket can lock-on to air vehicles, and also has a larger instant-kill radius. Rocket wins, IMO

 

Concussion Rifle vs. Grenade Launcher- The grenade launcher is great for a skilled player, but is usually more of a support role in taking out player's shields. The concussion rifle is more consistent if you are looking for kills. The grenade launcher can EMP vehicles, but the concussion rifle can knock around and flip light ground vehicles. Concussion Rifle wins, IMO.

 

 

VEHICLES

 

Falcon vs. Banshee- The Falcon is absolutely stronger than the Banshee in a head on fight, and the Falcon can also be used as an armed transport. The Falcon also has much more health. The Banshee is better at killing single opponents, but when there is multiple enemies,(Covering the Core Carrier on Spire) the Falcon is much better. Falcon Wins.

 

Revenant vs. Warthog- The Warthog is definitely better at killing infantry, and can usually destroy the Revenant with relative ease, as long as you have a good driver. The Revenant can flip the Hog, but again, a good driver won't let that happen.

 

Ghost vs. Mongoose- Even if the Mongoose has a power weapon holder on the back, the Ghost will usually win head-on, and is better against infantry.

 

Scorpion vs. Wraith- The Wraith is difficult to aim at a distance, and the shots take a while to get to the desired location. Also, the shots are weaker than a Scorpion blast. (Haven't tested this out, just an observation). Scorpion wins either way, though.

 

OVERALL FAIRNESS

 

Equipment placement- On Boneyard, the Human vehicles are protected by a shield, so the Humans can get them whenever they want. The Elite vehicles aren't protected, and can easily be stolen by a quick Warthog run. The Human power weapons are also right above the core, which is where all the Spartans camp with Shotguns and AL(Remember, Shotgun beats Sword, and AL beats everything) so they have very convenient weapon placement for them.

On Spire, the Humans have their vehicles at the very far side of the map, and the Elites don't have a ghost or anything to make a quick run and steal them. So the Elites have to make a very long run if they want to sue the human vehicles, which are much stronger. The Banshee is in a very easy spot for Spartans to steal, most Spartans just camp in the tunnel nearby as soon as the 3rd phase begins. 70% of the time, the Spartans get the Banshee, and they capture the Core because the Banshee just continues to spawn kill the Elites, because they don't have any insufficient weapons to take down the Banshee. If the Elites end up with Banshee, then the enemy Sniper just fires 4 quick bullets into it, and it is down and ready to be stolen again. And also, the Core is to easy to steal and drop down as soon as the 3rd phase starts. Usually the Spartans just fly up the lift, throw grenades and AL as soon as they get to the top, which clears out all of the Elites. They then get the Core and drop it and the Banshee can proceed to spawn kill the Elites. The fact that it takes the Elites the same amount of time to get up on the Spire, as it does the Spartans, is just stupid.

 

 

TL:DR The Elites are at a severe disadvantage compared to the Spartans.

 

And BTW, why did Bungie change the Green vs. Purple that was in the Beta? People only praised that. Why do we even need team colors in Invasion, if you can't tell the difference between a Spartan and Elite, then you have more problems than this game.

Well that is it for my little rant. Tell me anything you think needs to be edited, and I might change it.

[Esorath]

I liked a lot of this. Mostly instead of it being what happened to elites, it should be what happened to invasion.

Elites I feel where left with only the advantage of having evade and the health respawning.

I am not even sure if the elites are given evade solely anymore either.

 

But yes, to all of this.

Also Elite playlist please. Elite Objective please.

Playlist where it doesn't matter if you default character is spartan or elite.

[Dean PHD]

This was a nice read. I hadn't thought much about the subject but you are absolutely right. Human grenades are more powerful too. Although plasma's will cling to the enemy. I think it's a draw on those 2.

[Infinite LuLz]

I approve for no human weapon pick up for the elites, but they get to dual wield.