People who complain about the 'Join Session In Progess' system....

[marcus903]

I know I shouldn't do this because it basically makes me a complainer myself and because those complainers targeted by this thread will throw skippy fits at me. But it appears I have to do it.

 

I've recently posted in several threads trying to explain why the 'Join Session In Progress' feature was implemented. I whether got ignored or shot down. Then, I had to deal with someone (by the name of 'Cortar') who believes there should be a 'leaver penalty' and a basic irritation of the JIP system because he doesn't like uneven teams.

 

Let me tell you this: Bungie's attempt at stopping quitters failed because they didn't notice the lack of a JIP system. All they did was implement some 'quitting penalty' that only lasted 10 minutes. Developers who add quitting penaties need to realize that they no matter what they do, there will always be people quitting. You can make a 30 minute quit ban, but people are still going to quit, the game is just going to lose reputation, and players are just going to start complaining. This was a big problem back when Reach was released, many people went onto bungie.net and complained about them being banned from matchmaking because they had other things they need to do. Because of this, many players stopped playing reach, some players even moved to Call of Duty. Bungie didn't understand that they can't technically stop players from quitting, even if they made it where they remove the quit button, all players can do is unplug the xbox, which will lead into an even more controversy to some players.

 

Back when I had Reach, I had a hatred of quitters. It was until this year when I figured out it was because of the lack of a JIP system. The JIP system rebalances teams after a player quit. But some people don't even realize it's purpose.

 

Now, I do agree that it has some problems. I, myself, had been placed in a game that was 3 seconds from ending. But you can't just expect every single system to be 100% perfect. Each system (both online and real-life) has flaws that some or most people don't like. But nobody (not even the federal government) is going to remove them because several people didn't like it. Why? Because without it, it would cause problems that will lead to even more problems with the community.

 

Even so, it just needs some tweeking so we don't get placed into a game that is 90% from being complete. Just removing it is not going to help, even if the entire fanbase disliked it.

 

As for the people hating on the system because of the fact you are always placed on the losing team, I don't get why you want to be placed on the winning team so much because I don't see why you want to be placed on the winning team every time you JIP. The JIP system has to place you on the best available team, not your best preferred team. There is a set proecedure for putting you in a middle of a match. If you stay in the game, (winning or not), you'll still probably get the XP earned for the entire match. I believe that happened to me when I joined that match that ended immediately after I joined, as I don't remember getting less than 2000 XP points.

 

I can't stop you from hating on the JIP because that's your opinion. But JIP is what Halo needed since Halo 3 and we all just have to support the team we get put on so they can all get their XP points. Nobody is going to receive XP if people are constantly quitting. Look at Call of Duty: No quit penalty, a JIP system, no people whining over the JIP system, and a smooth gameplay.

 

To Cortar: As I said before, 343 Industries is not going to just put a leaver penalty since there is a JIP system in place, even if it is 'broken'. Deal with it, or go back to playing Halo: Reach where there is no JIP system, and there is a leaver penalty.

[Tommy]

I love the JIP system! It makes sitting in your friends lobby less boring knowing that you could get thrown in at any time!

[Twisted Oracle]

GREAT POST!

 

I agree 100% with everything you said

[TornadoFlame]

now that this game is like call of duty a jip is just here even tho it is very broke it has more cons then pros. it should just be made toggalable.

[Cpt Picardo]

I have no problem at all with the jip system since it makes match making faster. But its not true that you get full xp for joinin a game thats almost over. Yesterday i played a minute long game and i only got like 300 xp in the end.