Proof that the Boltshot is OP?

[Rob T]

Since it's been such a huge debate as to whether the Boltshot is overpowered or not I decided to do a video testing the Boltshot's range and killing ability against the human shotgun and the Scatter Shot. As you can see the fact that the Boltshot gets you to one shot and will kill you at a further distance than the other ordinance dropped shotguns proves that this weapon needs some balancing. In my opinion the gun doesn't need to be less powerful, it just needs it's range cut in about half lol. What do you guys think?

 

 

[snqrls]

Good post.

[Kiing 0f Coffe]

This is the video that should get 1000 likes because it is true.

[Saint Mudknot]

Im still convinced the Boltshot is fine, i know it bothers people but im ok with it 100%.

It has a charge up and cooldown for 1 shot.

Scattershot......scatters randomly so its random.

Shotgun is very boss still

And the getting you down to 1 shot, being too OP? what about the plasma pistol, you can turn someone to 1 shot from farther and shut down a vehicle.

 

However besides my opinion great video. i liked the testing procedures very nice. Why is the charge up and cool down never mentioned? If less range would make people that happy im fine with that too, however unchanged i feel fine.

 

Just my opinion

[snqrls]

Im still convinced the Boltshot is fine, i know it bothers people but im ok with it 100%.

It has a charge up and cooldown for 1 shot.

Scattershot......scatters randomly so its random.

Shotgun is very boss still

And the getting you down to 1 shot, being too OP? what about the plasma pistol, you can turn someone to 1 shot from farther and shut down a vehicle.

 

However besides my opinion great video. i liked the testing procedures very nice. Why is the charge up and cool down never mentioned? If less range would make people that happy im fine with that too, however unchanged i feel fine.

 

Just my opinion

 

Plasma pistol doesn't do headshots, and it's a slow moving projectile which takes twice as long to charge, and then the thing has to undergo cooling.

 

Simply put, the boltshot has the same effective range as the shotguns, probably has a marginally faster kill time on average if you can score a headshot, and kills from farther away... consistently.

[Saint Mudknot]

If you score a headshot

Shotgun will fire quicker than a boltshot.

And the plasma isnt all that slow, people are real good with it

 

A boltshot has a charge up, you cant hold the shot, and has a cooldown

[snqrls]

A headshot is easy with its firerate and given an ounce of skill. I've done it, so I know.

Of course, which is why I say probably. At the very least however it has a faster killtime than ANY primary.

A plasma pistol doesn't get you the kills; the precision weapon does.

 

Dude, I know you keep insisting this is what ballances the boltshot, but it ain't that hard to time it, especially when you're given a pretty hefty period to aim it between when it finishes charging and when it automatically fires; and, there's a lot of give and take with its spread and effective range - it is just not a hard weapon to use.

[Saint Mudknot]

This video only asked for its range to be cut, the power is not an issue. Im fine with the gun to its fullest, even if you want to argue about it i dont see it as being a gun the out balances the game at all, considering most battles are range. Its a choice weapon and besides promethian vision, if you use it often and understand it so well, you will also agree that most people who run in on you using it are rushing without any strategie besides they want to punch you or something of the such.

[snqrls]

This video only asked for its range to be cut, the power is not an issue. Im fine with the gun to its fullest, even if you want to argue about it i dont see it as being a gun the out balances the game at all, considering most battles are range. Its a choice weapon and besides promethian vision, if you use it often and understand it so well, you will also agree that most people who run in on you using it are rushing without any strategie besides they want to punch you or something of the such.

It's rendered ballanced only in btb where it's very situational. It however, runs amock in 4v4 slayer or dominion. Its range needs to be cut down signficantly.

 

And no, that's not how it happens. THey can do it because they think my shields are low, they could have a shotgun or sword or hammer, or they used promethean vision and don't think I have a boltshot on me. OR maybe they're just running through to help their teamates, through an otherwise open corridor, but because of the damn range I kill them very easily. Now, it doesn't matter whether they approach me or not, because the mere existence of an op weapon is a problem, regardless of whether you get kills off of it.

 

Do you understand?

[Rob T]

Thanks for the feedback on the video guys I appreciate it.

[Saint Mudknot]

I understand how you see it, thats fine.

 

But you dont see how i see it and want to keep trying to argue your point to me.

 

NP Rob T keep up the good work

[Rob T]

Man the hammer seems to suck in this Halo, not that I use it much but just an observation.

[Twisted Oracle]

I say a clip size reduction or a range reduction will work

[snqrls]

I understand how you see it, thats fine.

 

But you dont see how i see it and want to keep trying to argue your point to me.

 

NP Rob T keep up the good work

No, honestly, I do. You think it's ballanced because people are just avoiding cqc more and more, or at least that's what they should be doing... this just doesn't make a whole lot of sense sinceit doesn't address the point. It'd be different if the issue was whether the boltshot is a problem to gameplay, but that's not it.

 

I think you're confusing ballanced gameplay with a ballanced sandbox. OP refers to the latter.

[Rob T]

Honestly I would be ok if they left the Boltshot's damage alone and just cut its range by about 1/2.

[Ryu♥Hayabusa]

Or made the secondary fire take a whole clip. Better idea that.

[Rob T]

That's not a bad idea, but I would still like to see the range decreased a bit. I just think it's a bit strange that your secondary weapon would be more powerful and have a longer range that the ordinance dropped shotguns.

[Armor_l0ck_pr0]

Yes, the boltshot is OP, but keep in mind, you can't access the boltshot at all until you're like, level 35 or something like that (I don't remember the exact level) and the shotgun/scattershot, you have an abou 1/5 chance of getting either one or the other every time you kill 7 people, so it's not too hard to just get 3 or so ordanance drops and call in a shotgun whenever.

[OMG Treason]

Interesting video. I believe that the Bolstshot is pretty fine where it is. You have to land like every particle of light to kill someone with it or your screwed.. but it does have an impressive range.

 

I still prefer ordnance shotguns over it though.

 

Tough one to decide.

[Rob T]

Yeah I was really surprised by the Boltshots range especially compared to the human shotgun, but if you play it right it's not too OP, I dunno that range is just crazy though.

[Vendetta]

Even though you can't zoom in, so it's like going for a lucky shot.

[OMG Treason]

Well in an ideal scenario it can land all of its shots but on a moving target it is alot harder.

[Cortar]

Yes, the boltshot is OP, but keep in mind, you can't access the boltshot at all until you're like, level 35 or something like that (I don't remember the exact level) and the shotgun/scattershot, you have an abou 1/5 chance of getting either one or the other every time you kill 7 people, so it's not too hard to just get 3 or so ordanance drops and call in a shotgun whenever.

 

That has literally NOTHING to do with anything.

[Rob T]

Yes, the boltshot is OP, but keep in mind, you can't access the boltshot at all until you're like, level 35 or something like that (I don't remember the exact level) and the shotgun/scattershot, you have an abou 1/5 chance of getting either one or the other every time you kill 7 people, so it's not too hard to just get 3 or so ordanance drops and call in a shotgun whenever.

 

Seriously lol what does that have to do with anything?

[Superusername2]

I think the Boltshot may be a bit strong for a starting weapon but also it is clearly to weak for an ordinance drop. This is where having map based weapons heled in the other halos me thinks. Every time I get a needeler in my ordinance I want to punch a baby adding boltshot to baby punching options is a no go.