NDeezy415 Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Hey all, My initial impression of the Crimson map pack is not good. As others have pointed out, where are the nice, tight, small maps? At this point, Haven is really the only solid map that offers this type of gameplay (as evidenced by its constant selection in voting). I think the community has made it clear to 343 that we'd like more great small maps. Secondly, I really take issue with the artistic direction of the Crimson maps. None of the Crimson maps have any distinct stylistic elements that seperate them from one and other. It really appears that any one of them could be a continuation of the other, that they all sort of blend together. Why do all these Crimson maps look so dark, muddy, and ugly? This somewhat extends to the Halo 4 maps in general. What ever happened to the bright, varied, fun maps of the previous Halo games? Thank goodness for Haven, Ragnarok, and Exile, the only non "blah" looking maps (maybe this is why people like them?...) I'm crazy sick of the barren wasteland setting of so many FPS games. Halo was always a refreshing alternative, but with this ugly looking new map pack and the existing maps, I'm begininig to worry. Maybe the new maps will play fantastic and this won't even matter. I already love the multiplayer maps way more than weak-ass Reach. 343, keep up the awesome work, and please give us both some small maps, and some stylisticly unique maps in the future. Thanks! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRF BaDInTentZs Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I've noticed this tendency myself. The H4 map designers are markedly inferior to those of H2 and H3. Decidedly unhappy about that as well as the size of the maps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cortar Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 The map size problem can never be fixed. 343 pigeon holed themselves into this style of play with the addition of sprint and instant respawn. All maps HAVE to be medium size now otherwise the gameplay gets too chaotic. Haven is a great example of this, many times, a player who you just killed will be able to respawn, shoot and kill you before your shields even recharge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balloonloons Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Reach maps were inferior??? That's ridiculous. Most of the maps in reach were remakes! I would trade these maps for reach maps any day! Reach maps went bad when 343 took over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDeezy415 Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Interesting point on sprint affecting the size of maps, I hadn't thought of that. I've heard similar things about the jetpack influencing maps on Reach. Nonetheless, I still think there is room for maps of similar scale to Haven. I share your frustration with spawn kills, but it's still a fun map and seems to be the most popular 4v4 slayer map. In response to the superiority of Reach maps, I'll admit that I didn't spend nearly as much time on Reach (really just didn't enjoy the multiplayer). That being said, it's difficult for me to address the maps individually. I will say, I seemed to play A LOT of slayer on those ****ty, ****ty forge maps. I hated sword base, as well as the other highly vertical maps. There was one large grassy map that I liked, I think it was a remake of a Halo 2 map (?), but it was still ****ty since I hated Reach gameplay (armor lock can burn in hell). At least Reach had some interesting stylistic variety to the maps. I still like most of the Halo 4 maps, but so many of them are stylistically similar (grays and browns, craggy landscape, ugly spartan structures). I really miss the variation of maps in Halo 3 (never played mulitplayer in 1 or 2), in both style and size. I mean, seriously, the three Crimson maps all look the same. They couldn't make a single one with a neon purple covenant theme? or another grassy map? a cool arena type or interesting base/building map? Hopefully next time, right?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baeztoberfest Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 You can thank Certain Affinity for your craptastic maps. (CoD map developer) as for haven being the ONLY map? Pfft. Wrong. Adrift is way better for being a small map. I share your frustration though. I really liked Halo 3's immense diversity between outdoor and urban combat maps. I still love the pit and I don't know if there IS. A better map than lockout. Still halo CE has the best assortment with beaver creek and chill out. My point? Certain affinity is trash and so are "most" of the Halo 4 maps. But to rehash the OP you're right. Sprint changes everything. Especially the mobility perk. But it's not a game changer like the boltshot or halo Reachs AL (which I loved by the way to make noobs rage quit). Small maps are just different styles of combat, not necessarily "chaos". They should keep track of what people are voting for. And give them a style. But to be blunt they won't. And do capitalize on my point HOW SICK WOULD LOCKOUT BE WITH JUMP JETS!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BumblePumpkin Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 They need to just not worry about "Chaos" in maps and concentrate on FUN. For ***** sake, WE WANT A VIDEO GAME. Not a competitive pile of MLG rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baeztoberfest Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 They need to just not worry about "Chaos" in maps and concentrate on FUN. For ***** sake, WE WANT A VIDEO GAME. Not a competitive pile of MLG rubbish. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 werkege is cool it so beast i mix of techogly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchimus Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 You can thank Certain Affinity for your craptastic maps. (CoD map developer) as for haven being the ONLY map? Pfft. Wrong. Adrift is way better for being a small map. I share your frustration though. I really liked Halo 3's immense diversity between outdoor and urban combat maps. I still love the pit and I don't know if there IS. A better map than lockout. Still halo CE has the best assortment with beaver creek and chill out. My point? Certain affinity is trash and so are "most" of the Halo 4 maps. But to rehash the OP you're right. Sprint changes everything. Especially the mobility perk. But it's not a game changer like the boltshot or halo Reachs AL (which I loved by the way to make noobs rage quit). Small maps are just different styles of combat, not necessarily "chaos". They should keep track of what people are voting for. And give them a style. But to be blunt they won't. And do capitalize on my point HOW SICK WOULD LOCKOUT BE WITH JUMP JETS!? Download it from my fileshare and see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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