Anatamize Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 There's 3 maps I feel like getting off my chest which have horrible spawns for Capture the Flag (I'm not sure if it goes the same way for infinity slayer because I mainly play CTF.) Complex Abandon Ragnarock These maps have very bad spawn locations, and depending if you have a good team for CTF, Abandon or Ragnarock and the skill is not even, one team will be spawn trapped and die numerous times. I've seen this happen on all 3 maps. Problems on Complex: I've never been spawn trapped on the lower side of complex ever yet. I've only spawn trapped the side with an open area of the map near the garage and 3 pillars. (top of the map elevation wise) The reason being the whole team can get nailed as soon as they spawn because they spawn in a very open area with little cover. The other team famously gets on top of the roof and shoots at the people, spawn trapping the whole upper side of the map. I've litterally had a situation before where my team spawntrapped a team which started 1 v 5, and then the whole team joined in on their side and they kept spawning and by that time we were all on the roof shooting them all killing them, they never scored a single kill in a couple minutes and went -60 in KD spread. Problems on Abandon: I've seen a similar issue, the team that spawns up top gets a bigger advantage. Reason being they spawn inside of a building and on the right and left side of them and below them there are exit points. The lower part of the map has no cover accept for sparse few rocks. I've been in a situation multiple times as a victim and spawn trapper where i've set up where half my team is in main building and the other on left and right of the bottom part of the map near the flag, they keep spawning less than 5 feet away from their flag and we keep killing them. This has multiple cons also, not only do they keep spawning less than 5 feet, you really can't get their flag. It's very very hard, because if you kill their team they keep spawning back on you, especially with instant respawn. Problems on Ragnarock: This has only happened to me a couple times in a few hundred games of CTF. I've been in the position of victim and trapper. I joined a game once as 1/5 team mates. me and my friend were getting spawn killed inside of the base near the flag with both mantises. We couldn't do anything. There were 2 mantises outside and we kept spawning in the base or near it. They kept running the flag as we couldn't even leave the building. I've also done this too. I've been on the top mid of the map, our whole team and controlled 2/3 of the map as to where they keep spawning at their base. We didn't have 2 mantises like that other situation, but we controlled the whole situation of the map. ------- Please fix these problems by adding spawn points in the middle of the map that are nuetral for both teams, but don't make them near active areas such as abandon, don't make them spawn in top mid building, but atleast some spawns in the alleys on left and right. Same for Ragnarock near the turret, please. And Complex in the mid building lower level and hallway under kitchen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRF BaDInTentZs Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Complex is broken in every list I don't play CTF often so I haven't seen any problems with Ragnarok Abandon spawns are broken as well but not horribly, minor fixes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Oracle Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Complex does seem to have some terrible spawns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cortar Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Not only are there problems with the spawns like you mentioned.... but an asymeterical map should NEVER be in a 2 flag ctf playlist (looking at you complex and abandon!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatamize Posted December 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Yes, this comes to attention and really needs to be fixed. I hope this will be brought to attention by 343i and be fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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