WagonMasterGeneral Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I prefer elites to the Spartans. in halo 3, they had the same amount of customisation as spartans, in reach they did not have as much but at least you could choose. In halo 4 , there are no elites whatsoever, so my question is, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuko 'Zarhamee Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Actually they had half of the armor customization options of Spartans in Halo 3. As for why they're not in War Games, there really is not reason. 343 says that they can't be there because multiplayer is now part of the story, but I can easily think of reasons to have them in War Games. There is no reason for them not to be in War Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatanicBagels Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 They were removed because 343i decided that they wanted War Games to work out with the story that they had planned. In essence matchmaking is now a combat simulation that takes place aboard the infinity. Apparently it wouldn't work with the story to have elites in there because there would be no reason for that in the combat simulation. I do not think that it was the best idea. Many people liked playing as elites and though some people may say that they like the fluent and complete story experience present in Halo 4 the vast majority of people (probably 99.9%) don't really care very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRF BaDInTentZs Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 343 doesn't listen to the players very well, just saying. Maybe Bravo being brought in as staff will help with that, IDK. I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Fuller Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Uh no. Having elites and Spartans in halo3 upset the gameplay. You could shot through elites necks as if they had none and theirs head was lower into their body making it difficult for the appropriate headshot. Heck it was standard to play as an elite when able to have the edge. Example: in SWAT you needed to be elite since headshots where harder vs Spartans. You had to aim above their head in order to ever land a wad shot (like that makes sense). Just no, stick to Spartans and have an even playing level. And don't get me started about hitting someone in the (left or right) shoulder and have it can't as an assassination (a hit from behind)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoFlame Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 i missed trolling my friends in halo 3 with the elite they ate bullets and i enjoyed being a elites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuko 'Zarhamee Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Uh no. Having elites and Spartans in halo3 upset the gameplay. You could shot through elites necks as if they had none and theirs head was lower into their body making it difficult for the appropriate headshot. Heck it was standard to play as an elite when able to have the edge. Example: in SWAT you needed to be elite since headshots where harder vs Spartans. You had to aim above their head in order to ever land a wad shot (like that makes sense). Just no, stick to Spartans and have an even playing level. And don't get me started about hitting someone in the (left or right) shoulder and have it can't as an assassination (a hit from behind)... Just because some players have trouble headshotting a Sangheili doesn't matter. The hitbox was the same and I never had any trouble killing them. Besides, in Halo 4 they are stand more upright so that shouldn't have been a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlorn Penguin Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 In Halo 2 and Halo: Reach, they had larger hitboxes, making it pointless to play as one. In Halo 3, they had the same hitbox as the Spartans, which was weird as Hell and inaccurate. Altogether they were just never popular. I like Elites more than Spartans, but most everyone else doesn't and they would simply be a waste of development time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuko 'Zarhamee Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 In Halo 2 and Halo: Reach, they had larger hitboxes, making it pointless to play as one. In Halo 3, they had the same hitbox as the Spartans, which was weird as Hell and inaccurate. Altogether they were just never popular. I like Elites more than Spartans, but most everyone else doesn't and they would simply be a waste of development time. Sangheili were very popular. The topic "Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking" has 291 pages of posts. There are many Sangheili fleets (clans). They were and still are popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlorn Penguin Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Sangheili were very popular. The topic "Sangheili (Elites) In New Trilogy Matchmaking" has 291 pages of posts. There are many Sangheili fleets (clans). They were and still are popular. I almost never saw them in Halo 2 because of their disadvantage. I rarely ever saw them in Halo 3 either, even though the issue was resovled. I'd love it if they brought them back for Halo 5, but from my experience, it seems like the time spent working on them could be better spent elsewhere. But hey, I won't complain if they come back. I'd probably even switch to Elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonzzilla Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Seeing how there are no Elites aboard the Infinity, the War Games wouldn't exactly make sense if they had Elites. Even if they had one team as Elites or Prometheans to encourage fighting as it is on the field in Spartan Ops, the other team would complain or hate being the monstrous aliens like what happened in Gears of War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuko 'Zarhamee Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Seeing how there are no Elites aboard the Infinity, the War Games wouldn't exactly make sense if they had Elites. Even if they had one team as Elites or Prometheans to encourage fighting as it is on the field in Spartan Ops, the other team would complain or hate being the monstrous aliens like what happened in Gears of War. Spartans need to fight Sangheili, so they should train against them. They will also need to fight alongside them, because the arbiter still leads most of the Sangheili. The Sangheili in War Games could be troops sent by the Arbiter or simulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Talk Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I was always led to believe the hitboxes were off on Elites at least in H3. Theres a lot of people that like them and personally I fall under the category of I do not care if they are in or not. I liked messing around as an Elite every once in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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