Sometimes It's the Little Things

[oprude]

I would like to preface this post by saying that although this is only my second post on the forums, I have been reading the posts here for a few days and have been a Halo player since the original Halo: CE. Obviously many of the changes in this game are extremely noticeable and have been debated numerous times. However, I believe that there are many smaller changes that have just as much of an adverse effect on the game. Admittedly I did not play much Reach so some of these changes could be carried over from there.

 

Perhaps the smallest change with the biggest effect on the game is not breaking scope when being shot. This gives a player with a sniper a huge advantage. In previous Halos if you saw a sniper with his sights on you, if you were able to land a shot on him you could escape as the shot would break his scope. Taking away this has made snipers even more powerful than before.

 

The all around downgrade of vehicles has made all but the Mantis nearly useless on many maps. Vehicles have already been hurt a lot by loadouts and the ability of every player to start with plasma grenades, and making vehicles overheat, have limited boost etc, and blow up from shots from a regular gun has damaged them immensely.

 

In relation to vehicles is the small bounce that plasma grenades now have. On multiple occasions I've been in a vehicle, had someone throw a plasma grenade at me which lands just short, but then bounces just enough to stick the wheel of my warthog, wing of my ghost, or whatever vehicle I'm in at the time.

 

Weapons dropped by players disappear from the map far to quickly. One of the staples of Halo is getting and holding onto power weapons. In Halo 4 unless you are within seemingly one sprints distance from a player his weapons will be gone by the time you are able to make it to his dead body.

 

There is a distinct lack of weapons on every map. Not necessarily power weapons, but weapons that are included in your loadout. In previous Halos these weapons would be dispersed throughout the map, not only to be found and used, but also to replenish your ammo should you get low.

 

The map voting system gives the players too much choice in my opinion. Normally this would be a good thing, but because players can see exactly what 3 maps they can choose from and there is no random option, the number of maps that are played is way down. Each playlist has one map that everyone always chooses and generally that is one of the better maps on the game, but it decreases the variety of each playlist. The system of either keeping the first map that comes up or vetoing for a random map that was used in previous Halos insured that nearly every map would be played.

 

The final point that I would like to address is the ability of the flag carrier to use a pistol while carrying the flag. In my opinion this makes the flag carrier far too powerful. Although the flag carrier is still extremely vulnerable from a long distance, if he is able to get close to someone, he will win more often than not. The combination of one of the best close range weapons and the capability of a one hit beatdown makes him far too powerful.

 

While all of these changes are relatively small and only affect certain aspects of gameplay, the combination of all of them takes a step back in the normal flow of Halo games.

[BaconShelf]

I would prefer to go out of my scope than have my aim thrown off. Another one for the list is slowing down when being shot at while sprinting. The choosing map has been in since reach, I like it. I would like to remake my vote though, if I accidentally press it.

Don't play CTF so haven't experienced but I like that the carrier can actually defend themselves to a certain degree. I mean, stay out of melee range and its the same as killing someone with a pistol who walks slower isn't it?

 

Vehicle damage was altered so they were not OP. in halo 3, it was near impossible to destroy vehicles without boarding, explosives or another vehicle.

 

I completely agree with the weapons points. I feel that H4 starts your loadouts with nowhere near enough ammunition. I burn through it all the time, something that has rarely happened before.

[OutGunnd]

I would prefer to go out of my scope than have my aim thrown off. Another one for the list is slowing down when being shot at while sprinting. The choosing map has been in since reach, I like it. I would like to remake my vote though, if I accidentally press it.

Don't play CTF so haven't experienced but I like that the carrier can actually defend themselves to a certain degree. I mean, stay out of melee range and its the same as killing someone with a pistol who walks slower isn't it?

 

Vehicle damage was altered so they were not OP. in halo 3, it was near impossible to destroy vehicles without boarding, explosives or another vehicle.

 

I completely agree with the weapons points. I feel that H4 starts your loadouts with nowhere near enough ammunition. I burn through it all the time, something that has rarely happened before.

THATS THE WAY VEHICLES ARE SUPPOSED TO PLAY. You have to use map/weapon control to beat them.

[BaconShelf]

And vehicles mean that you rarely get to said power weapons. And what if they are not there?

 

Vehicle control IS map control.

No vehicles = No power weapons.

[LiQuid BioniX]

Funny. People call for the Gauss Hog to be nerfed because it's OP and then people come back and say that vehicles should be more overpowered. I enjoy powerful vehicles. I think there's something to be said for teams that have a guy who's job it is to destroy/control the vehicles. I also think that things got a little bit crazy in Halo 3. Enough said.

 

As for the OP, I want to say welcome to the forums! Hopefully you choose to stay! Good post, by the way, I do appreciate the organized and respectful fashion in which you presented your argument/opinion. To quickly comment on your statement about the flag carrier, I think the pistop + flag is cool idea, but might need some tweaks. It changes up the game, but one thing it does is it almost makes the flag a power weapon as it is a one hit kill. It's a different game, that's for sure.

Edited February 4, 2013 by LiQuidßioniX♠

[ProudDrunkIrish]

First off OP good post.

 

As for some of the points in general I agree with them, except maybe the flag carrier one, I quite like the pistol addition as it means you have a chance to score even if your teammates are not good at helping you.

 

The vehicles in general are underpowered from general small arms fire, a team can destroy a banshee or ghost very quickly with just DMR's and the ability to start with plasma pistol and grenades changes the whole thing, if this had been in H3 then vehicles would not have been able to rampage as much. The Gauss hog being OP is more due to the map layout of exile (its most common place to appear) it can hang back and wipe out players before they even get near it, whenever a bad driver takes it close to the enemy it is usually dead very quickly.

 

The staying zoomed when shot is something I hate as not just for the sniper aspect of it but sometimes when I am being shot I do not even notice anymore which is annoying.

 

The lack of fixed weapon locations on the map is annoying, in big team I always have ammo on or else I run out. And although i like the map voting system there is a constant flow of the same maps which can get very boring.

 

All these things are small and to be honest most of the issues with the game are but there are many of them.

 

All this said I still play and have some fun, but hope they make some changes.