Destiny: What We Know So Far

[SykoWolf]

The following bit's of info were found from several different sources across the interwebs.

(Green words are those of others, Orange are mine, i shall put more of my own words into this as time goes on and I gain a better view of Destiny)

The fabled creators of Halo don't seem to be leaving their skills in FPS behind at this time. Destony, Bungie's first new game since they parted with the Halo IP both looks and pretty much sounds like a FPS...but it's ALOT more then that. I took some time out of my busy day (lol) to put together this info for your reading pleasure.

Please enjoy

According to Activision’s Eric Hirshberg, it’s not quite a first-person shooter so much as it has “elements of a first-person shooter.” Which is fair to say, considering that we've known for a while now that Bungie’s next project would also have some sort of persistent online world that will be "always there for you", the boasted scope of which led people to believe Bungie’s new project would be a cross between a shooter and a massively multiplayer online game.
 

But don't mistake this game for an MMO, since they don't want people calling it that either.Even though Destiny takes place in a huge,constantly evolving world, amongst other borrowed MMO features.
 

A “Shared World Shooter,”
Bungie's engineering Lead, Chris Butcher quickly dispelled the rumors of Destiny being an MMO when he explained about the technology used in the game. It's infact VERY far from an MMO. Chris coined a new term for the game...."The worlds first shared shooter"

 

It's a persistent world in which you can watch hours fly by and inclement weather roll in storms and hurricanes.



It’s also a sandbox world. You’re free to move around and explore different planets or hang out in hub cities like Overwatch where you can find people gambling for better gear. There’s a sandy Mars location and a snowy landscape of a buried city. Chicago is a swampland. Europe is a deadzone. Vines wrap around dilapidated buildings. The solar system is flecked with rubble and long abandoned fleets. You can fly through the rings of Saturn. The entire universe of Destiny — the solar system including the Earth, Moon, and Mars — is open to your expedition needs. Which brings us to my next point…


The Big “Always Online” Rule, No Subscriptions, Social Interactions

Requiring a persistent Internet connection is not a new concept. It’s also not exactly a favourable one, either, as we’ve seen with Diablo III. But Bungie managed to explain their need to be constantly connected.

In Destiny you live in a persistent world. It’s constantly being affected by not just the passage of time, but by other players. As you enter certain areas of the game, the server will register which of these are public domains/combat areas. If you stumble into one, it’ll automatically, and invisibly, search for another gamer to matchmake you with. Kind of like Journey, except the server will download all of that player’s customised gear (which potentially makes up millions of unique, personalised characters). So as you play, the server should seamlessly integrate another player into your game. As you’re scouting a safe path around the dangerous Cabal, for instance, you might bump into another player. So even though you’re playing out your personal story, a lot of your time is spent in shared adventures. And even if you don’t want to go on a quest with another player, you can watch other players carrying out their own missions together, right there in your game.

This is still your personalised story. You still have control. But it’s constantly impacted by other players (in what way exactly, we don’t know yet), and by events both planned and spontaneous. Kind of like what they do in MMOs — except Bungie says they have no plans to charge you a subscription fee. The game, required Internet connection and all, is built for social and cooperative play. But that doesn’t necessarily mean Bungie is trying to jam-pack as many players into your experience as possible to say, hey, look how cool it is that this world is so big and full of people. They specified that the amount of players you see in your game is “design-controlled.”
This kind of social interaction in console gaming is the way of the future, Bungie said.
If Arthur C. Clarke Were To Make A Game…

If you haven’t read Childhood’s End, go read it now. Seriously, it’s fantastic. Most of Arthur C. Clarke’s work is. Destiny seems to be the game version of this science fiction novel.
The premise of Destiny is this: some mysterious entity has crippled civilisation as we understand it. We don’t know how, why, or even what it is.

You play as a Guardian, protector of the last safe city on Earth. What remains of society gathers for safety under a giant, hovering sphere known as traveller, concept art of which we saw (leaked) as early as November. Your home is the tower in the city wall. When you’re not fighting on the frontier, attempting to keep aliens and creatures at bay, or exploring the solar system to discover and reclaim lost items and secrets from humanity’s Golden Age, this is where you’ll wander and interact with other players.

It’s a mythic science fiction, said art director Chris Barrett. It’s futuristic sci-fi, but with a touch of history.
Bungie even often refers to Destiny as a series of books, a series of stories that unfold like chapters. So as we play, we’re completing micro-stories, perhaps under an overarching storyline in the solo “campaign,” but they wouldn’t say one way or another on that one.
A Spartan With Magical Powers, Other Character Classes And…Vehicles? Space Ships?

As a Guardian you can pick one of several classes, three of which were mentioned during the press conference I attended. You can play as a Hunter that looks like she stepped straight out of Mass Effect (Tali resemblance, anyone?), a cape-draped Warlock, or a Titan that specialises as a soldier (all pictured in order below).


Though Bungie didn’t go into specifics, it sounds like there will be vehicles and customisable space ships at your disposal. In fact, your space ship even sounds like a mobile home of sorts, carrying your spoils of war. Scoring points in competitive multiplayer rounds can get you enough of whatever currency system is in place in this economy to buy a glamorous space ship (or maybe you score other players’ pink slips, Bungie didn’t say exactly how the process goes down). Or you can earn ships through picking up bounties.
Dungeon-Like Raids

Random encounters,Dungeon Raids.....This game is definatly becoming much larger then expected, Bungie seems to be putting out ALOT of work on this.

Bungie story lead Joe Staten told us a “legend” (a sequence of events and missions that make up a story in your world) of a random encounter with another player. He set out to play with coworker Jason, who showed off his new ship earned through the Queen of Reef bounty. Their mission was to fly to Mars to investigate a lost, ancient city from humankind’s Golden Age. They fought through the Cabal-patrolled territory (concept art of the Cabal were not sent to us, but from my glance at them during the event I’d say they look remarkably like The Fifth Element’s Mondoshawans). Staten described them as Rhinos carrying slug throwers and riding in big tanks. These legion of Sand Eaters occupy the city, and they’re apparently incredibly dangerous, so they’re best avoided while Joe and Jason were on their way to the Dust Palace.


Suddenly they were swarmed by rockets and a fresh batch of Cabal backed by a centurion, thanks to a drop ship that spotted them overhead. But fortunately, the Dust Palace is part of Destiny‘s public combat zones, and so a random Guardian player happened their way just at this moment. Riding in on her Pike (seen above), she demolished the threatening Sand Eaters and hopped off the vehicle to greet the two strangers with a pose. If you’ve ever played an MMO like World of Warcraft, the concept will be immediately familiar to you. You can type in a command to activate various emotes, dancing or sleeping or what have you. In this case, the Hunter that just saved their life struck a “let’s do this” pose to indicate that she’d like to help them invade the Dust Palace to search out the lost treasures of Charlemagne, which are apparently ancient powers of Mars.

“This is a dungeon raid,” I think. Staten confirms my suspicion when he tells us that at the end of this fight they’re granted with new weapons. Staten gets a hand cannon and his companion gets a shiny new shotgun. The Hunter bids them adieu.
A Story With No Constructed End In Sight

Just as you build the story, you’ll apparently build its ending, too. Bungie story lead Joe Staten explained that, happily, stories left up the devices of the players are a lot less daunting than constructing every plotline step of the way themselves. Mysteries of the world and the looming aliens will be revealed as players discover them. Or perhaps create them? This part wasn’t clear and they wouldn’t elaborate.

I personally love creating my own ending, so long as my available options are varied and plausabel enough for it to work. If planned well, Destiny could become one of the most played games of our time.
Bungie’s Seven Pillars For Destiny

Bungie co-founder and project director Jason Jones kicked off the presentation with a look at Bungie’s “seven pillars.” They’re what guided the goals of Destiny through development. Here they are:

• An interesting world you want to spend time in
  Bungie kept using words like “hopeful” and “mystery” to describe the world of Destiny. They want to create a world that players will be interested enough in to want to spend their time there.
• It has to — duh — be fun
  Put players in a sandbox, give them tools, let them use these tools against enemies. Bungie has always been good about sticking to a formula when it comes to battles, and it sounds like they haven’t lost sight of that with Destiny. They believe that players have more fun when they feel like they’re being successful in a game. It’s not about the content necessarily. It’s about having a broad range of activities, both competitive and cooperative, and completely non-shooting related activities, too.
• Offering rewards gamers care about
  No bull**** points and number-crunching stats. Players want to customise the look and feel of their games. So let them customise their appearance and their fighting style. Let them build their characters.
• A new, unexpected experience every night
  Bungie wants you to jump in expecting to do one thing, and be seduced into doing an entirely other thing. Hopefully the random and spontaneous game events will lend themselves to this experience. Interactions with people are unpredictable, and they’re excited about what possibilities that will bring.
• A shared world with other people
  Everything is more fun with friends around. As Bungie said, going to an empty gym is creepy. Certain cooperative activities will specifically require multiple players. And even when you’re just playing solo, you’ll still see other people in your game, because there’s always someone playing with you, according to Bungie.
• Accessible to all skill levels
  You’ll have to have basic coordination for this shooter, as any other, but Bungie wants all sorts of people to enjoy this game. All the core activities should be enjoyed by any novice player.
• Enjoyable even for the tired, impatient and distracted
  Bungie said that a player’s mindset when they come into games is that they don’t want to work hard or read too much. They want to feel things they don’t feel in their otherwise everyday lives. This pillar in particular influenced Bungie to put a huge investment into their UI design. They had to throw out dearly held ideas because it just wouldn’t work with all players.

A Whole Bunch Of Enemies

From what I have seen personally, the enemies are Varied and dangerous, each new type posing a different threat requiring a different tactic, from Space Zombies to spider pirates...ALOT will be going down in the world of Destiny.

I already touched on the Rhino, Fifth Element-looking enemies back on Mars. But there are several other enemies you’ll encounter throughout the solar system. Like time travelling robots, warlocks, spider pirates, space zombies…I’m not sure what half of these things will be like, though you can at least see some of them in the concept art spread throughout this piece.


And these are just a handful of the concept art Bungie has. In fact they have so much concept art for this game that it numbers higher than all their previous games put together. Let me be the first to say, “wut.”

All New Visual Technology


Engineering lead Chris Butcher was on stage to talk about an entirely new graphics engine that they built to give their artists more tools to see their wildest imaginations come to digital life. After all, with all that concept art, something has to be done, right?

A lot of the technical babble is over my head, but it’s obvious this is going to be a large world with a lot of new landscapes spanning all sorts of weather and aesthetic grounds. So they’ve built a new construction method to help build worlds faster. Technical art director Ryan Ellis brought up a moon base on screen to show off how it’s made up of reusable pieces and polygons meshed together. He showed a time-lapse of mountains being clicked into place and little pebbles dotting the floor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwOUi4JDC4o&feature=player_embedded

They’re using new lighting techniques, too. Real-time lighting can be updated on the fly, but while it’s faster it loses some of the subtle lighting effects of the alternative global illumination method. So they combined features of the two to get some of those effects back. More details, shadows and depths popped up on screen as senior graphics artist Hao Chen compared the visual output of these techniques on some in-engine shots.


They refer to it as large scale ambient inclusion, and their world-building tool as Grognok. It’s their nexus of art and world design, and with it comes the most highly requested new feature: an undo action. I bet that one was a long time overdue. And yes, they built Halo without an undo feature.

While graphics aren't what create a game, they definitely add more flavour to the universe. So It will eb interesting to see how well this all pans out. Id love to be able to see epic landscaped in good quality.

Bungie.Net, But For Destiny And On Your Mobile Device


Not many details were gone into on this front (much like everything else), but it’s obvious that Bungie is leaning more towards a story focus than a stats focus. Your profile will show, visually, where you’ve been throughout your legends. It’ll notify you when there’s new stuff to do in the game. It can connect you with friends and your social groups. You’ll be able to share stories through the app, too.


Despite my lengthy post on Destiny here, a lot of these details feel empty to me. I didn’t see a single shot fired in the game. I didn’t see enemies in motion. I saw a few seconds of some Guardians running up to some sort of time warp-looking gate. But there are still so many questions left unanswered.


Will there be a voice chat system? Are the ships we get mostly cosmetic, or are we going to fight in space battles as we travel from Earth to Mars? Are there any sort of allegiances, guilds, groups that aren’t merely for social purposes? Are there more than three character classes? What does it mean when Bungie says that players will affect the world, or that the ending won’t unravel itself until we as players do something? Is there even a proper ending? A proper, single storyline, or is it just mini stories that you build into your own world? Is it going to be available on next gen consoles, or just Xbox 360 and PS3 like they keep insisting?


This was the first official reveal for Destiny, so Bungie and Activision wouldn’t answer a lot of our questions. For now, they’ve certainly got some interesting ideas, but I’ll have to reserve judgment until I see some guns.



Below are some concept pic's released by Bungie, personally I found this rather interesting since they seem to be going for a Mass Effect/Halo sort of Universe....either way..Syko loves it :3

The Fallen

Hellmouth (enemy base)

Exclusion Zone (where the Dust Palace is located)

Ocean of Storms

Fire Team of Guardians

Citadel (another enemy zone)

Comment and Discuss Below guys

Edited March 2, 2013 by SykoWolf

[Kiing 0f Coffe]

Thanks for taking the time. Its always good to learn about this game.

[Harbinger]

Good post Syko. Relaying alot of this info to a good friend of mine. His reply "Gamegasm."

[Fishy]

I'm not going to get this.. Just because it looks a lot like halo. I want to give 343 a chance, not having Bungie come back and try to take over.

[Harbinger]

I'm not going to get this.. Just because it looks a lot like halo. I want to give 343 a chance, not having Bungie come back and try to take over.

I'm sure Bungie and 343 will be able to co-exist with eachother. Hopefully Destiny is just different enough to be in a different category and not really even effect Halo.

[Father B]

He said he felt that a lot of those details were empty because he never saw any important images or gameplay footage.  Personally, I don't care if there isn't enough data for a clear idea of Destiny.  I've been waiting on a game like this for about 20 years, dagnabbit!  Maybe my faith is misplaced, but I believe in Bungie to deliver.

 

A friend of mine says he feels it's too early for any hype to be accurate.  That sparked an hour-long debate, ending in me pointing out his terrible sense of games and my hitherto infallible sense of Awesome when I see it (example: he went against my advice and picked up Too Human when it came out -- he refuses to speak of it to this day).  We have politely agreed to disagree on this matter.

 

I will admit that many of the currently known Destiny details are foggy, at best.  However, I don't believe Bungie is to blame, but rather it's the fault of whomever leaked intel before Bungie was really ready to go public.  Call me biased, but I don't believe that Bungie would risk their reputation on a humdrum project.  So I am psyched right up for this game -- I've already lost sleep from the excitement.

 

It just makes me want to happydance. 

 

For the next year.

 

 

Thank you for posting this, Wolf.  You're awesome.  

[Caboose The Ace]

nice on syko good read it was hope u keep updateing this over time annot wait for destiny most likley first game that will enter my new xbox aka 720s disk drive

[Pbrabbit]

The Time taken to make a post like this... I respect that. Thank you. Thank you for sharing your information letting other fellow gamers about new games coming up, especially a new game coming up from Bungie. Thanks again and I grateful for this post.

[Frankenzer]

This looks cool

[Destroyaaa]

I dont even know where to begin. This game is going to shatter the mold and create a new experience unlike anything we've ever seen. I am so excited for this