Roberto Sylux Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 first of all forgive the bad spelling. } if you dont want to read all the things who i wrote. just read the bold parts when i see the first trailer of castlle map pack the first thing i thought was ¿why they make a maps for the wathog?. when 343 make the warthog for this game forgot one simple fact. THIS its not the same halo than reach or halo 3. the warthog in reach was useless in invasion (because plasma granades, plasma pistols and heavy weapons and vehicles), in small and enclosed maps where a bad turn or heavy fire from the enemy can make a single double kill and oviusly maps like highlands (1 laser, 2 rockets, 1 plasma launcher, 2 snipers) and breakpoint (2 lasers, 2 rockets, 2plasma launcher, 2 snipers ) make imposible that the warthog can make some difference and not only 2 easy points for the ennemy. what i mean is. the warthog crew need 3 points to make worth the use, its not easy, the turret guy is naked up there and the pilot need exelent driving skills. but this is not reach. in this game anyone had plasma granades (80% of players) an only two can destroy it, anyone can had plasma pistols and heavy veapons. and all players had accuracy guns like the damm br (before i will explain myself) who can easily kill or even destroy the crew. But most of all. the maps are to small for the warthog, because the plasma granades, the warthog need to be far of the enemy to avoid the danger, is frustrating to the gunner cant kill nothing (exept with the gaushog and his camper spot), but get close the enemmy is suicidal, get far is frustrating and dangerous for the snipers an all the loadout guns, face a mantis or any tank is not an option and the ennemy can call a laser or incinerator or any other gun. the warhog is extremely weak and the characteristics of the maps (bridges, rocks, tunnels and narrow paths) its all a nightmare for the warthog, and as i can see this map pack is exactly that. What would I do : any player with plasma granades can destroy a wathog by himseves easily + there are a lot of heavy weapons in the maps, 343 forgot to upgrade the warhog for the new battlefield. i know that 343 is never going to give more power or resist, but, why if the plasma granades no longer get stick in the warthog. an skilled player still can stuck his gunner or driver but is not that easily as now (only 2 plasmas to destroy it , that is unfair), and maybe that the indirect shots dont demage that much the crew of the warthog, the skilled player stil can kill the passengers but that will ballance the chanses of this iconic and funny vehicle that is hard to use well but today is not an advantage, is a tomb for two. one day, my bro was playing geas of war and i i said to him " you dont get borred of that single almigty gun (the gnasher)" and he reply to me "your halo is the same, but with two guns". first of all dont lie to yourselves, get a headshot in halo is not dificult, you dont have superpowers if yoy can make one or ten. the automatic guns are stereotyped as the noob guns but is not true, that guns are too powerless, the br/dmr, killed the dual weald of the game, has control of all the range, from far, to medium, even at relative close range has an adventage if the last bullet hit the head (with the br thats easy). the range is just too short and his accuracy is a joke. ina experiment who i made, de distance of a 4x4 block of orge is enough for a br / dmr / carabine to win, i always play with te AR and im level 107. so i know of what im talking about te damm boltshot has all the short range and the br / dmr has medium and large, so what is the range of the Ar ?. none, his effective range just don't, had one. when i play i dance, jump, crouch and move all arround the map but any camper with boltshot or br, or any combat out of the limited range with a br is my dead, the plasma granades that they launches before die and the stolen kills for a distance thats te way i live with my AR, you need good aim (0.5 seconds out of the sigth is the diference betwen live or die ) and how to move arround the map to avoid get killed by 2 or more players and keep in range the ennemy. im not a camper, to be a camper with the boltshot is more easy, but i was borred of the same 2 guns all the life just because is "pro". pro is not only get a headshot. but 343 dont give any oher option, you want to win?? br and dmr you want be called a "noob" and get lots of assist medals, stay away form the corridors and open spaces and need to run always to the enemy as close as you can to be recibed with a granade or a boltshot to the face, there are 3 forgoten guns to you. 343 has created 3 kinds of crawler, 3 of jackalsand 4 of grunts and all of them are exactly te same for the presicion rifles, 1 shot, 1 kill and the can be far. out of the range of almost everyone of the covenant guns. but the AR player need a half of the clip to kill a single grunt, the ammo runs out and they need to be close, in the midle of all the enemy fire to kill something widowt get only an asist medal because some other win the shot, if the elite, knight or hunter is close, te plasma granades or the boltshot can make the job and the magnum is the only way to survive. learn to get close to the enemmy widout get killed has no rewards, use that guns has no rewards, why is the aim so terrible ?? to be easier to the new oness ?? they are only easy score to the rest of the players, why dont nake that the new ones learn to had accuracy and that the halo reach phrase "short an controled burst" has any sense, that the guy with automatic rifles need to learn to had accuracy and if he get that skill can win by ussing his skill in their specific scenario or situation. What would I do : the rifles has too short range and are not effective guns againist many of the IA ennemies. i dont want more power to the assault rifles, i just want more accuracy and that a headshot wit that guns make more demage, i dont mean single shot, but 3 or 4 shots to the head kill. that is not cheat, if you shoot in short blast or burst gave you aim, keep shooting like a real noob onli spend ammo. controlling your shots can make the diference, you need accuracy ( but widout an aim ) and control. in matchmaking the dmr / br still can win at large range or even middle range but if the player is skilled still can win that fight if they learn how to play his cards and the heavy grunts, alpha crawlers and elite jackals no longer need necessarily the half of your ammo if you know how to play. maybe this post is useless. but i want to say it. thanks to all who read this post, halo 4 is a good game, but is the same halo with some new stuff and the wathog and AR, are useless, but still my favourites. 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Halogeek99 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Better solution: Remove the options for weapon loadouts and have Br/Dmr spawn on map. The Ar is far from useless. It's been powered up bigtime since earlier Halos. It doesn't need to be upped at all. The real issue is to reduce the amount of simultaneous ongoing power weapons and battlerifles around. People came onto these boards day one of release with this observation, so its nothing new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hansen Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 There's also a way to make your vehicles much much tougher. I'm happy the game isn't like reach. If it didn't have armor abilities I would be in heaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulic83 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 I just played reach today thought i'd give it a whirl and the assualt rifle on that is far weaker its pathetic. I think it's fine on 4 I do think you should do more damage if you hit the head or higher up but with the automatics, I don't think it makes a difference if you hit em in the head chest or big toe it all does the same damage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halogeek99 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 If the Ar do more damage than this all u se will be Ars, so NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbrabbit Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 thanks for the Insight and Opinions because everyones is different. I could agree with some of the stuff here actually. Nice insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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