Caboose The Ace Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Ok guys I looked on the covenant languages section of Halo nation and found out this .... That in halo ce all covenant where speaking there language but was transited for the connivance of the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snipe MD Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 you see, it's because master chief...Is the alien (BA BA BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buns Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Ok guys I looked on the covenant languages section of Halo nation and found out this .... That in halo ce all covenant where speaking there language but was transited for the connivance of the player. Thank you for proving my point. I was going to bring the "canon" out on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimeAddict Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Thank you for proving my point. I was going to bring the "canon" out on you. lmao yea thats the only reason why they were able to speak english is because bungie wanted to make it convient for us altho i kind of prefer them speaking their language it gives it a better feel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Bnus that proved no ones point really it didn't prove the translator one and it didn't prove cortana translating it for chief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockGazm Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 He just does. Pretty much like how John Crichton from Farscape understands all Aliens, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrhuntington Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 I just started reading the fall of reach book and here's a line that proves translators existed at some point in the Halo universe (unless that book's non-canon now) Taken from the first page of the prologue: (talking about grunts) "They reminded Chief of biped dogs, not only in appearance, but because their speech- even with the new translation software- was an odd combination of high-pitched squeaks, guttural barks, and growls" This was from the battle of Jericho Vll, which was 17 years before Master Chief was in a game, so maybe things could have happened over the years to the translation software, or maybe it was new armor. I don't know, but I found this thread interesting after I just read something about translation software earlier today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buns Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Bnus that proved no ones point really it didn't prove the translator one and it didn't prove cortana translating it for chief. Are you serious dude really? Im sorry but wow. Well you can always post it as a status update or comment on my profile. Also allow me to quote a page from the paperback version of Halo The Fall Of Reach. This is from page: 286, Paragraph 5 of the revised edition "Cortana has been programmed with every ONI computer insurgency routine," Dr.Halsey told him. "And she has a talent for modifying them on the fly. She has our best Covenant language-translation software as well." There is more to the paragraph of course but it does not involve our discussion. In Halo 2 and Halo 3 the covenant spoke English. This is a widely known fact. Halo CE, and Halo 4 the covenant/storm covenant spoke their native tongue.(I only brought up the main games this is not counting the spin-offs) I take the time to write this for you. And you don't even take the time to read. Edited December 17, 2013 by Buns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) Rrhutington well I think that settles it master chief did have translation software for quite along time but I think the translation software got better over time by the time halo 3 came it pretty much could translate everything. EDIT Bnus chief first met cortana right before the fall of Reach Edited December 18, 2013 by Ranger447 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedStarRocket91 Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 I suppose for me the weirdest part is the suddenness of the translations. Cortana isn't in Chief's head for the first part of Cairo station, and yet we can understand the Covenant boarders' speech perfectly: yet on Delta Halo, Chief actually has to ask Cortana to translate the Prophet's sermon - and there's no delay or anything, she just snaps her fingers and it's done. This does support the idea that Chief has some sort of translator software in his suit, as it can't translate San 'Shyuum speech because it's never encountered it before, while Cortana, having had previous contact with the Covenant, can. Assuming Cortana keeps updating Chief's translation software as they go, it also explains why even when she's not in his head during Halo 3, the Chief can still understand the Brutes and Prophets. But that's where it starts to get awkward. Cortana only provides translation for the Grunts during the events of Halo: CE, and if she can so easily translate what the Prophets are saying in Halo 2, why not do the same for the Elites on the Pillar of Autumn and Halo? Cortana doesn't get any canonical upgrades between games, so it's not like she's acquired any new linguistic abilities that way, and we already know that she's more capable of translation than the Mjolnir software. That said, I think Halo 4 has a potential answer. Cortana mentions that she rewrote the Mjolnir armour's firmware while the Chief was in stasis, and the fact that we suddenly can't understand what the Covenant are saying is actually brilliantly clever, as it's an early clue even before the first of Cortana's vision distortions that something is wrong with her, because not only has she completely broken the translation software which only got better and better over the course of three games, but isn't even capable of translating on her own anymore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buns Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) Rrhutington well I think that settles it master chief did have translation software for quite along time but I think the translation software got better over time by the time halo 3 came it pretty much could translate everything. EDIT Bnus chief first met cortana right before the fall of Reach EDIT Cortana did not exist before the fall of reach. If you truly wish to discuss that make a new thread or know the canon. I think all of us here already answered the topics question. http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Cortana Edited December 19, 2013 by Buns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stig Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Nope Bnus the translator is built in because as of most of Halo 3 chief was alone but yet he understood what Arbiter and the Elites and grunts etc where saying. Not saying your wrong, or trying to calling you a liar, but I do not believe you are correct. From what recall, is that the UNSC designed A.I (like cortana) for purposes of translating covenant chatter... This can be backed up by playing Halo CE. In the second mission "Halo" Cortana says this when entering the Cave... Cortana: "I've hacked into the Covenant battlenet. They're actually broadcasting tactical data on unencrypted channels! We should show them who they're dealing with. Master Chief, I'm going to use your suits Tansponder system to monitor their chatter." - From Halopedia (The levels transcript) So this would mean that spartan suits are equipped with enough tech to hack and listen in on conversations of the Covenant, but as for translating, they either must know or speak Covenant language or have an A.I like cortana do it for them. This is also made clear in Halo 2... Mission "Delta Halo" Cortana: "Regret's giving a speech. A sermon, to be exact. So far it's the standard Covenant liturgy, but I'll translate if he says anything interesting." Mission "Regret" Cortana: "Wait, go back." Master Chief puts Cortana in the holo-projector, her avatar appears. Cortana: "That's what I thought he said. The Prophet of Regret is planning to activate Halo!" Master Chief Petty Officer John 117: "Are you sure?" Cortana snaps her fingers, the hologram starts speaking in English Prophet of Regret (Hologram): "I shall light this holy ring, release its cleansing flame, and burn a path into the divine beyond!" Cortana snaps her fingers again, and the hologram freezes. Cortana: (smugly) "Pretty much." John-117: "Commander, we've got a problem." Here is a video, if it is not set to the correct time, then forward or rewind it to 25:52... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UrIrI4FJZ0A#t=1552 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) Well as Red said Cortana was not in chiefs head a points in the Halo games yet he knew what they covies were saying so he must have some sort of translate but as said before in some moments chief has to ask cortana on what they say so I conclude there is no answer. BTW Bnus Cortana existed a few days before the fall of Reach I have played all the games read almost every Halo nation page and read all the books. EDIT There is no answer because in Halo 3 and moments in Halo 2 chief did not have cortana but understood what the covies were saying Edited December 21, 2013 by Ranger447 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buns Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) Well as Red said Cortana was not in chiefs head a points in the Halo games yet he knew what they covies were saying so he must have some sort of translate but as said before in some moments chief has to ask cortana on what they say so I conclude there is no answer. BTW Bnus Cortana existed a few days before the fall of Reach I have played all the games read almost every Halo nation page and read all the books. EDIT There is no answer because in Halo 3 and moments in Halo 2 chief did not have cortana but understood what the covies were saying Halo 2 and 3 the covies spoke english Also are you sure you read all the books caboose? Are you sure? The first page in Halo:Fall Of Reach starts in- The story begins on the planet Jericho VII on February 12, 2535, source: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_The_Fall_of_Reach Cortana begins service in: November 7, 2549 source: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Cortana While I admit you're doing a good job of trying to deny canon please don't go around lying. I found out all that information just by reading the books and "halo nation" pages you claimed to have read. Now if you were talking about the video game then you make sense but the video game is "Reach" and the novel is "The Fall Of Reach". Edited December 21, 2013 by Buns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Of Harts Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Halo 2 and 3 the covies spoke english Also are you sure you read all the books caboose? Are you sure? The first page in Halo:Fall Of Reach starts in- The story begins on the planet Jericho VII on February 12, 2535, source: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_The_Fall_of_Reach Cortana begins service in: November 7, 2549 source: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Cortana While I admit you're doing a good job of trying to deny canon please don't go around lying. I found out all that information just by reading the books and "halo nation" pages you claimed to have read. Now if you were talking about the video game then you make sense but the video game is "Reach" and the novel is "The Fall Of Reach". I think he's talking about the Fall of Reach event, not the whole novel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buns Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 I think he's talking about the Fall of Reach event, not the whole novel. Then he should be more specific since I clearly stated in earlier posts I was discussing the novel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) Ok Bnus I have read all the books all the games everything done !!!!!!! of course I do not remember every word of by heart but lets check ....... From Halo nation itself on cortana Cortana first met chief prior to the fall of Reach EDIT The fall of Reach when the covies attacked Reach prior to that Chief met cortana. Edited December 21, 2013 by Ranger447 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 Even then in Halo 4, you aren't able to understand what they're saying, whether you're playing as the Chief or not. I prefer it when the Covenant say funny things when they're trembling in fear of their impending doom rather than babbling incomprehensible gibberish. Agreed. I like understanding what they say because they are funny at times. I hate that we don't understand them no more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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