Touquisi Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Hi all, when playing H4 mp I always find my friends slaughter me with needlers and they kill almost with holding down the trigger for only a second, and they Track on to player making it difficult to dodge. I need to know if this is just my weakness or if it is meant to be an OP weapon? Tell me what you think?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biggles Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 It is pretty powerful, and it can be considered to be a power weapon.But, not overpowered. Needlers, to me anyway, have ALWAYS been pretty powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi1176 Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Needlers have always been powerful, thats likely why they weren't added as a covenant loadout option in Halo 4. I don't mind it though the power you get is stabalized by the amount of ammo you get for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 The needler was given a huge boost of power in Halo 4 and is now very powerful when you see someone with it try and lure them into a trap and keep your distance that thing is deadly at close range. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axilus Prime Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Needlers have been way boosted in Halo 4, though they've always been quite strong. In Halo 4, they're outright power weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Element Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 As others have said, they clearly got amped up. They're strong enough now that they are an option for personal ordinance. Most people I play against rarely use it, but the weapon can seem almost unfair when it's in the right hands. Don't get caught in the open if you know your opponents are using it. Stay close to corners or any cover that you use to get out its spray. Then draw them in to close range where it's harder to use, or pop in and out of cover so can't concentrate the fire in an explosive burst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 I still say they're nerfed. It shouldn't take 6 shots to kill you. According to the books and movies, it should take 3 max to kill you. So stop complaining and get used to it. It's not difficult to counter, there's a hard light shield armor ability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akali Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 needles are pretty powerful since i was fighting Biggles and he had an overshield and i had a neelder and a super combine was able to kill him so i would say that the needles have been boosted quite a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unease Peanut Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 The weakness of the needler is that it only works best at mid-range. Increase the distance so it can't lock-on or decrease the distance to dodge the slow turning spikes of death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWI Toasty Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 They did got stronger since H3 But it's nothing to big of a deal if you have your corners or stay away since they have rather long distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoob Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Halo 2 dual wielding needlers > Halo 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buns Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Halo 2 dual wielding needlers > Halo 4 Halo CE PC Modded needlers rs with ungodly rate of fire > Life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoob Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 Halo CE PC Modded needlers rs with ungodly rate of fire > Life Girlfriend > life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadly Just AL Posted April 29, 2014 Report Share Posted April 29, 2014 They no longer need a full clip to combust, but the projectile attraction to the opponent seems to have decreased, as I no longer find it as simple to lock onto targets with it as in previous games. So it has an equalizer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMG Treason Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Has to be picked up/ ordanance drop = Fine to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 I like how enemies are capable of scoring supercombines as well. But what bugs me is how it ignores shields now. Sure, there may be some canonical reasoning, like the Storm Covenant modified the Needler to make it much stronger, but it's inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockGazm Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) It is pretty powerful, and it can be considered to be a power weapon. But, not overpowered. Needlers, to me anyway, have ALWAYS been pretty powerful. Yeah, this for me also. I mean, when you look at the weapons in Halo 4, more specifically the BR and DMR, the Needlers would have to be powerful. Otherwise there would be a lack of variety regarding what power weapons you can use in Halo, of course if only the DMR and BR, were the best, everybody would use them. But, luckily there's good balance with most of the weapons in the game. Well, Primary weapons mostly. I don't think it's OP, but it is bloody powerful at short to medium-ish range. The needler is definitely a power weapon, the ammo disappears quickly and really you'll only be using it for a short amount of time. I'm not so sure how many kills you can pull off with it but I'd say at least 3, maybe 4. It could be more I don't know but to my knowledge, the needler doesn't have a lot of ammo. That's the main reason for my why the needler isn't OP. Edited May 3, 2014 by ShockGazm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinyl Scratch Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Personally, the auto target on needler nowadays sucks, I can't ever get a bead on my target, but If I do, they are dead in 2 seconds. Still I wish they would fix range and auto target. I would even be willing to sacrifice a bit of its ammo capacity for it. Seeing as it only takes like what? 3-5 needles to detonate? Halo 3 Needler, now that was nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Kittens and Gibberish Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 No wonder they got rid of duel-wielding for Halo 4...I couldn't imagine duel-wielding Boltshots...And with the pistol's in Halo 4 I could go on killing sprees like there is no tomorrow! The plasma pistols would actually be deadly, and the Needlers...duel-wielding those would be like god gave me diplomatic immunity...it makes no sense I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfreeze Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 The needler is a powerfull weapon, even in lore base it is. Though they could easily be countered. I ussually dodge them by straffing as fast as I can or just run past the needles (quite a trick as they track really really fast). Running past them requires a fast reaction speed though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 Another counter to the Needler, when called in from ordnance has a very low clip count enough for 3 or maybe 4 kills. If used correctly of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted May 5, 2014 Report Share Posted May 5, 2014 The needler has always been one of my favorite weapons!!! ~ I think that it's strength is evened out by ammo in H4. You don't get a lot of ammo for those things unless you continually go back to where the needler spawns. I think another thing that evens that out is that you can't dual-wield anymore. ~ Needlers were super deadly dual-wielded! They aren't very great far away though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Kittens and Gibberish Posted May 6, 2014 Report Share Posted May 6, 2014 The needler has always been one of my favorite weapons!!! ~ I think that it's strength is evened out by ammo in H4. You don't get a lot of ammo for those things unless you continually go back to where the needler spawns. I think another thing that evens that out is that you can't dual-wield anymore. ~ Needlers were super deadly dual-wielded! They aren't very great far away though. Unless you have the Ammo thingy that gives you extra Ammunition for the first weapon you pick up...44 needles then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sindronian Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 If you think it's an OP weapon and it's something you can't put in your load out then it's a power weapon and not OP in that sense.Which is why the boltshot should not be in any loadout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 If you think it's an OP weapon and it's something you can't put in your load out then it's a power weapon and not OP in that sense. But then that could go for any weapon, No ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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