Halo 4 is way too easy still.

[Xbox Fan]

Let me just start off by saying that I've been a fan of Halo since Halo: Combat Evolved. I've enjoy every Halo game from there, even when Halo: Reach came out. There were complaints about how the Campaign and Multiplayer were. Other than that, it was still a fun game to play. However when Halo 4 came out, there were lots of complaints and issues about the game, which by the way a lot of them still exist. The biggest problem with the game is how easy 343 made the game. The game is so easy that anybody, especially noobs can pick up the game and go on winning streaks and think that they're good. Here are my complaints as well as others about the game still.

* Sniping is ridiculously easy

* Certain Perks especially if they're with another one like them can give players an unfair advantage

* The Boltshot is still overpowered

* Plasma Pistols and Plasma Grenades are still in the Loadouts

* The Assault Rifle is still overpowered

* There's still too much Aim-Assist

* Bullet Magnetism is still in the game

* The DMR is still in the Loadouts

* Active Camo is still in the Loadouts

* The CSR doesn't go by Wins/Losses

* The Needler is overpowered

* The Railgun is too easy to use

* The Battle Rifle is too easy to use

* There are no Classic Settings

* The SAW is now overpowered

* The Suppressor and Storm Rifle are practically useless

* There are missing gametype still

* The developers keep taking out gametypes

* The Light Rifle and Carbine are practically useless

* The Assault Rifle, Battle Rifle, and DMR are overpowered

 

I could go on all day about why this game still is terrible and failing, but I'm just going to give some examples.

Before any Halo Fanboy decides to put some dumb and immature post on my topic, do yourself a favor and just leave. I have no time for your childish games and you're only wasting my time as well as others.

 

For the rest of you, I hope that you found this useful. Feel free to agree or disagree, but do it in a polite manner. No flaming please.

[Axilus Prime]

And let me start off by saying that you are as pompous as anyone has ever been.

 

343's not changing Halo 4 to be the way you like it. I don't like Halo 4 very much, but the time for complaints about it is long past. And saying that anyone who likes Halo 4 is "dumb and immature" is, in itself, dumb and immature.

[Yoshi1176]

Why do you want to remove the DMR and Active camo form the loadouts? A lot of people like them, while active camo could be tweaked a little bit to improve it it still isn't that bad.

 

Also you basically said every gun is over powered. 

 

I know plenty of people that like using the Light rifle and Carbine, I don't know what your talking about when you say they are useless.

[Xbox Fan]

Listen guys, I wasn't just complaining about the game. I'm giving some reasons for why the game is still terrible. 343 had the chance to fix everything with the update but they didn't. Now Halo 4 is even more dead than it's ever been. All they had to do is remove all of the BS in multiplayer in all gametypes or give us a playlist with Classic Settings, but they didn't. The point that I'm trying to make is that if they would have made every weapon useful, made sniping harder, made using all the weapons harder, made vehicle stronger, made new gametypes & kept them in the game, made a playlist with Classic Settings, remove the Plasma Pistol, Boltshot, DMR, Light Rifle, & Plasma Grenades from Loadouts, put the CSR in the game, made the CSR a Win/Lose-based system, and much more, then Halo 4 would have regained it's multiplayer numbers. But 343 ignored most of the community and they haven't been listening to their fanbase and because of that Halo is dying. Just look at the numbers.

Edited April 12, 2014 by Xbox Fan

[Yoshi1176]

All I was getting at was that there are 6 guns on there that you said are overpowered I didn't literally mean that you said all guns are overpowered.

 

The perks are there to give you an advantage, and everyone can get that advantage if they play long enough and unlock them. You play enough to unlock a new perk you are rewarded, simple.

 

Lets please keep this respectful or the thread will be closed.

[Zoob]

I do agree the game is WAY too easy compared to past halos. That's just how I feel though, I know plenty that suck.

[Maestro]

Keep in mind that Halo 4 is 343's first attempt at making a Halo game on their own. Their previous release was the anniversary edition of Halo CE, which simply had a graphical update. In a few interviews they have stated that they have learned a lot from Halo 4... so we can only hope that Halo 5 blows Halo 4 out of the water on the level that Halo 2 did that to Halo CE.

And yes, I definitely agree on your loadout point. Standardized loadouts in Halo Reach worked well, and everyone spawning with the same weapons in Halo 3 worked beautifully as well. There should also be weapons on the map, since a race to the Rocket Launcher was always a thrill. As for personal ordnance, power-ups should be the only options available.

[Mr Biggles]

. The point that I'm trying to make is that if they would have made every weapon useful, made sniping harder, made using all the weapons harder, made vehicle stronger, made new gametypes & kept them in the game, made a playlist with Classic Settings, remove the Plasma Pistol, Boltshot, DMR, Light Rifle, & Plasma Grenades from Loadouts, put the CSR in the game, made the CSR a Win/Lose-based system, and much more, then Halo 4 would have regained it's multiplayer numbers. But 343 ignored most of the community and they haven't been listening to their fanbase and because of that Halo is dying. Just look at the numbers.

1. Agreed

2. Agreed

3. No why would they do that? people enjoy those weapons, and adds variety to the gametypes.

4. Leads to DDOSing

5. DDOSing

6. Probably not, and that can't be proven.

7. Haven't listened to the community? Brought BR Back, made small maps, etc. Numbers could of being because people prefer other games? Unlike when halo 3 was out when really there was only Halo and CoD

[Silent Orbis]

Those weapons... Aren't OP... Just the SAW from your list was actually OP, and that's a god damn ordnance. I don't know what the hell you're smokin' on.

[Xbox Fan]

Silent Orbis, if you're going to be rude and start trouble all because of what I said, just leave already. You're wasting your time as well as others by being rude. If you would have took the time to understand what I was trying to say, then you would have realized that the things that I listed are still issues with the game as well as others. It's not just me that still isn't please with Halo 4, look at what a lot of other people if not most have to say about it as well. 343 had the chance to fix everything wrong with Halo 4, but instead they did a half-efforted job at doing so. What are you smoking, do you really think that the game is much better than it was before? If you do, then are sadly mistaken because people are still leaving Halo 4. Also the people that left haven't returned ever since they left.

 

By the way if you think that the Battle Rifle isn't overpowered, then look at this video. This is proof that the Battle Rifle is overpowered because of how ridiculously easy it is to use.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3xtY4O6iDs

Yoshi1176, I get what you're trying to say, but the point is that 343 tried to cater the game towards Call Of Duty players and in turn it did nothing but hurt the franchise. 343 had the chance during the updates to fix all the problems with Halo 4, but they didn't do a complete job of it. Most people wanted them to fix the rest of the problems with the game as well, but they didn't. The only reason why they gave us the weapons update is to shut us up so that they wouldn't have to hear us complain. Even the weapon update was poorly done. They're not truly listening to the community like they claim to be.

[Silent Orbis]

Silent Orbis, if you're going to be rude and start trouble all because of what I said, just leave already. You're wasting your time as well as others by being rude. If you would have took the time to understand what I was trying to say, then you would have realized that the things that I listed are still issues with the game as well as others. It's not just me that still isn't please with Halo 4, look at what a lot of other people if not most have to say about it as well. 343 had the chance to fix everything wrong with Halo 4, but instead they did a half-efforted job at doing so. What are you smoking, do you really think that the game is much better than it was before? If you do, then are sadly mistaken because people are still leaving Halo 4. Also the people that left haven't returned ever since they left.

 

By the way if you think that the Battle Rifle isn't overpowered, then look at this video. This is proof that the Battle Rifle is overpowered because of how ridiculously easy it is to use.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3xtY4O6iDs

Yoshi1176, I get what you're trying to say, but the point is that 343 tried to cater the game towards Call Of Duty players and in turn it did nothing but hurt the franchise. 343 had the chance during the updates to fix all the problems with Halo 4, but they didn't do a complete job of it. Most people wanted them to fix the rest of the problems with the game as well, but they didn't. The only reason why they gave us the weapons update is to shut us up so that they wouldn't have to hear us complain. Even the weapon update was poorly done. They're not truly listening to the community like they claim to be.

You're the rude one, 2 wrongs don't make a right. "Just leave already" - Xbox Fan. It was 343's first game btw, Certain Affinity did CE Anniversary. And, since you won't snap out of it, let's say I agree with you about those "OP" guns. Now, if everyone has access to the lot "OP" guns for their loadouts, we call that equality. Everybody has access, most people use 'em if they're smart, so it'd be more accurate to say that 1or 2 guns are under powered, but "OP" guns give you an advantage over others - wait a second. But.. OTHERS have THOSE "OP" guns, too (unless they're a bit... naive). Most guns are "OP", which would actually mean that since almost everyone uses them - the guns ar equal. The only in-game advantage would be having more skill, which is the most important factor in ANY game. IDK, but I had so much fun playing Halo 4. It had to change anyway - if you like the older games from Halo, go play them! They were great games. But don't whine in front of the community - you have every right to, but that doesn't make it mature. Sorry if I was too harsh. If you stilk don't get it - who cares?  (and btw the suppressor isn't useless - it's what I used to beat 30 year olds at Regicide)

[тυcкєя]

Your right about one thing.. Halo 4 is easier than most Halos but I thought it was really fun. There's plenty of game types to play on so really you shouldn't get bored. Its more easier because the weapons have more of a range and they are more powerful. Of course if a noob comes around the corner with a Assault Rifle. Who's gonna win? The noob. Honestly I just use DMR. Assault Rifle is just..  terrible. If I could change things about Halo 4 it would probably be to make some of the weapons less powerful and add more color to the maps. But there's really nothing wrong with Halo 4. Its really just your opinion. Most people on here love Halo 4, it might not have been what most people wanted but Halo 4 is beast so son you just walked on the wrong turf..

Edited April 13, 2014 by тυcкєя

[Silent Orbis]

By the way, Xbox Fan. Don't take anything personally. Debates like this are exactly what forums exist for.

[RedStarRocket91]

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[Xbox Fan]

You're the rude one, 2 wrongs don't make a right. "Just leave already" - Xbox Fan. It was 343's first game btw, Certain Affinity did CE Anniversary. And, since you won't snap out of it, let's say I agree with you about those "OP" guns. Now, if everyone has access to the lot "OP" guns for their loadouts, we call that equality. Everybody has access, most people use 'em if they're smart, so it'd be more accurate to say that 1or 2 guns are under powered, but "OP" guns give you an advantage over others - wait a second. But.. OTHERS have THOSE "OP" guns, too (unless they're a bit... naive). Most guns are "OP", which would actually mean that since almost everyone uses them - the guns ar equal. The only in-game advantage would be having more skill, which is the most important factor in ANY game. IDK, but I had so much fun playing Halo 4. It had to change anyway - if you like the older games from Halo, go play them! They were great games. But don't whine in front of the community - you have every right to, but that doesn't make it mature. Sorry if I was too harsh. If you stilk don't get it - who cares? (and btw the suppressor isn't useless - it's what I used to beat 30 year olds at Regicide)

No you came off rude first Silent Orbis. Whenever you say to someone "what are you smoking" then you're just asking for trouble. Again quit being so narrow-minded and blind to the fact that Halo 4 is awful. The moment that 343 added noobish gameplay features that compromised the fairness of Halo, you knew already that Halo 4 was doomed from the start. 343 was too busy catering the game to noobs and not concerned about what damage it could cause to the franchise. They should've never added Sprint, Loadouts, Perks, Armor Abilities, Ordinance Drops, Instant Respawn, Join-In Progress, Flinch, Weapon Waypoints, Specializations, Spartan Points, Point-Based System, Progressive Ranking System, Hit-Markers, Bullet Magnetism, High Aim-Assist, Bloom, DMR, Mantis, Automatic Flag, Ball, & Bomb Pickup, and Flagnum. They should have kept them things out of the game. What they should've kept is Descope, In-Game CSR, Separate Playlists such as Ranked, Social, Community, & Cooperative, Firefight, Other gametypes, Other vehicles, Other weapons, Other Armor, Elites, Skulls and Terminals in Campaign, Campaign Scoring, Equal starts, Weapon placements, Friendly Fire, Military Style Ranks, Ranking system that goes by Wins/Losses different from the CSR, Perfect weapon balancing, Red X's, Scoring System similar to the past Halo games, Forge World, etc... Those are reasons why Halo is on a decline. 343 thought that they could get away with screwing over the true Halo Fans, but in turn all it did was kill their game. So why do you keep defending the game? It's not that great and it was rushed. The developers didn't take the time to think about the impact that their decisions would have on the community. If you can't accept the fact that Halo is dying because of the bad stuff that was introduced in Halo 4 then I don't know what to say, they have you as well as others fooled.

[Silent Orbis]

No you came off rude first Silent Orbis. Whenever you say to someone "what are you smoking" then you're just asking for trouble. Again quit being so narrow-minded and blind to the fact that Halo 4 is awful. The moment that 343 added noobish gameplay features that compromised the fairness of Halo, you knew already that Halo 4 was doomed from the start. 343 was too busy catering the game to noobs and not concerned about what damage it could cause to the franchise. They should've never added Sprint, Loadouts, Perks, Armor Abilities, Ordinance Drops, Instant Respawn, Join-In Progress, Flinch, Weapon Waypoints, Specializations, Spartan Points, Point-Based System, Progressive Ranking System, Hit-Markers, Bullet Magnetism, High Aim-Assist, Bloom, DMR, Mantis, Automatic Flag, Ball, & Bomb Pickup, and Flagnum. They should have kept them things out of the game. What they should've kept is Descope, In-Game CSR, Separate Playlists such as Ranked, Social, Community, & Cooperative, Firefight, Other gametypes, Other vehicles, Other weapons, Other Armor, Elites, Skulls and Terminals in Campaign, Campaign Scoring, Equal starts, Weapon placements, Friendly Fire, Military Style Ranks, Ranking system that goes by Wins/Losses different from the CSR, Perfect weapon balancing, Red X's, Scoring System similar to the past Halo games, Forge World, etc... Those are reasons why Halo is on a decline. 343 thought that they could get away with screwing over the true Halo Fans, but in turn all it did was kill their game. So why do you keep defending the game? It's not that great and it was rushed. The developers didn't take the time to think about the impact that their decisions would have on the community. If you can't accept the fact that Halo is dying because of the bad stuff that was introduced in Halo 4 then I don't know what to say, they have you as well as others fooled.

I was kidding with you, sir. "What are you smoking?" is a metaphor, which frankly isn't something insulting, to me - which shows that I didn't intend to hurt you. And, it is 343i's first game after all. After acknowledging that, one realizes that all games change. Now, being narrow minded means that you are fixated on one opinion to the extreme - you either love it or hate it. That is what narrow mindedness is. I don't give Halo 4 a perfect rating, but I think it's still a fun game. I don't feel that those guns were OP, but Halo 4 isn't ALL good. I definitely got ripped off by buying a limited edition, as all the exclusive DLC was given away to the public later. And I definitely feel like some things, like Spartan Ops replacing firefight sucked. But, I believe a lot of that change was actually good, that's where you and I differed. And, I feel like Halo's just getting started. But I would like you to give Halo 5 a chance - as 343i has had enough time.

[Mr Biggles]

No you came off rude first Silent Orbis. Whenever you say to someone "what are you smoking" then you're just asking for trouble. Again quit being so narrow-minded and blind to the fact that Halo 4 is awful. The moment that 343 added noobish gameplay features that compromised the fairness of Halo, you knew already that Halo 4 was doomed from the start. 343 was too busy catering the game to noobs and not concerned about what damage it could cause to the franchise. They should've never added Sprint, Loadouts, Perks, Armor Abilities, Ordinance Drops, Instant Respawn, Join-In Progress, Flinch, Weapon Waypoints, Specializations, Spartan Points, Point-Based System, Progressive Ranking System, Hit-Markers, Bullet Magnetism, High Aim-Assist, Bloom, DMR, Mantis, Automatic Flag, Ball, & Bomb Pickup, and Flagnum. They should have kept them things out of the game. What they should've kept is Descope, In-Game CSR, Separate Playlists such as Ranked, Social, Community, & Cooperative, Firefight, Other gametypes, Other vehicles, Other weapons, Other Armor, Elites, Skulls and Terminals in Campaign, Campaign Scoring, Equal starts, Weapon placements, Friendly Fire, Military Style Ranks, Ranking system that goes by Wins/Losses different from the CSR, Perfect weapon balancing, Red X's, Scoring System similar to the past Halo games, Forge World, etc... Those are reasons why Halo is on a decline. 343 thought that they could get away with screwing over the true Halo Fans, but in turn all it did was kill their game. So why do you keep defending the game? It's not that great and it was rushed. The developers didn't take the time to think about the impact that their decisions would have on the community. If you can't accept the fact that Halo is dying because of the bad stuff that was introduced in Halo 4 then I don't know what to say, they have you as well as others fooled.

But...surely the casual/"noobs" community is what they SHOULD cater to? Competitive people aren't the majority, never forget that, they have to cater to their majority of the audience, and most of them are casual players.

 

I like some of the features, and i am a competitive player, so saying they never should of added them, just because of what you say is an over exaggeration (don't bring figures into it as there is no direct link between the two, there are other factors involved.)

 

The reason Halo can be seen to be on a decline is because people like other games, as i said, back in the Halo 3 days there was only really that and CoD, and that's why more people played CoD, but now because of the variety of both FPS and other games, people like other things.

 

I agree with you that in places they made bad decisions yes, but saying they have us fooled because Halo is dying is a bit unfair, as said, there are other factors, not just the gameplay.

[Unease Peanut]

* Sniping is ridiculously easy

-Sniping is easier yes. But this gives the chance for more newer members to dish out some damage too. Although I kinda liked the fact that there were downsides to getting hit while zoomed in

* Certain Perks especially if they're with another one like them can give players an unfair advantage

-Depends on the situation. Adapt to it.

* The Boltshot is still overpowered

-The Boltshot Shoudln't even return to the halo games ever again. I hate it with all my heart.

* Plasma Pistols and Plasma Grenades are still in the Loadouts

-Yea these kinda ruin vehicular combat. But I can understand that they ad to be added because else the loadouts wouldn't be entirely customizable.

* The Assault Rifle is still overpowered

-On this I disagree. The AR. BR, DMR all have pro's and con's. The AR can now actually outshoot the other guns in CQC. Instead of being constantly being outshot by a DMR before the update.

* There's still too much Aim-Assist

-Can't you turn this off?

* Bullet Magnetism is still in the game

-Latency???

* The DMR is still in the Loadouts

-What is the problem with the DMR? Like I said about the Pro's and Con's. The DMR is most effective with a 5 shot kill at medium to long range. 

* Active Camo is still in the Loadouts

- Yea the usual downside to this is the radar jammer notifying you. But a certain bug makes it so that the radar jammer sometimes won't work. this needs a fix

* The CSR doesn't go by Wins/Losses

-CRS is bound to your contribution. This is a good think becuase bad team mates can't pull you down that much now.

* The Needler is overpowered

-It's a power weapon... It's in the name!

* The Railgun is too easy to use

-What would you want to do with it? It's actually quite complicated. You must charge it, the slug travels slow and it only has one shot before it has to reload. All the other guns are just point and pull the trigger!

* The Battle Rifle is too easy to use

-Kinda yes

* There are no Classic Settings

- Slayer pro? you can manually turn on the radar.

* The SAW is now overpowered

- Power weapons are supposed to be OP in comparison to loadout weapons. Deal with it!

* The Suppressor and Storm Rifle are practically useless

Not true. I can wreack havoc with a storm rifle. It takes town shields so quickly! Supressor is a weapon with a large clip which makes you able to supress a target.

* There are missing gametype still

Want to know why? In Reach they had so many gametypes that the population would spread to thin. They give you less choice but more people to play with and thus shorter search time

* The developers keep taking out gametypes

Same reason as stated above

* The Light Rifle and Carbine are practically useless

Again not true. You fail to see the pro's and con's! Light rifle had burst fire ability and a single shot ability. Burst takes 5 shots. Single shot takes 4 shots to take out a target. 3 bursts and one single shot in the mix will also drop you target. The carbine has a quick trigger which allows you to put a lot of damage downrange

* The Assault Rifle, Battle Rifle, and DMR are overpowered

Again no!

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but this post makes me feel like  you just lost a game on Halo and came directly to this forum to complain about everything that killed you. No offence.

[Victory Element]

Adapt or die

 

If halo just doesn't suit your tastes anymore, you are under no obligation to continue playing it. You're entitled to your opinions though, and I don't disagree with everything you say. But I've learned as time goes on, and sometimes if you can't beat them, you gotta join them

[OMG Treason]

Yeah pretty much what he said, adapt. Personally I have a class for any scenario, and if I just so happen to acquire a sniper rifle when I have active camo well... I guess that's everyone else's demise.

[Xbox Fan]

Adapt or Die? Are you that narrow-minded? Halo's population is in a huge decline because of the crap that they put in Halo 4. Telling me and others to adapt to broken gameplay is just like telling someone to eat a slice of pizza covered in vomit. Also saying that I as well as others should move on if Halo doesn't suit our tastes anymore is going to far with your rudeness. Have you even been paying attention to what most of the true Halo fans including me have been saying or are you so close-minded that you ignore the fact right before your very eyes. Most Halo fans said that Halo 5 is 343's last chance to get it right and if they mess up again, they said that they're pretty much done with Halo.

Victory Element, I stopped taking you seriously when you said adapt. What you said is like saying "well the game is broken to oblivion, but you should accept it." Since when did me being a Halo fan mean that I have no right to voice my concern about the direction that Halo is headed. You clearly don't like it that me as well as others thinks that Halo 4 isn't all that good. I'm done arguing with you.

[Silent Orbis]

Adapt or Die? Are you that narrow-minded? Halo's population is in a huge decline because of the crap that they put in Halo 4. Telling me and others to adapt to broken gameplay is just like telling someone to eat a slice of pizza covered in vomit. Also saying that I as well as others should move on if Halo doesn't suit our tastes anymore is going to far with your rudeness. Have you even been paying attention to what most of the true Halo fans including me have been saying or are you so close-minded that you ignore the fact right before your very eyes. Most Halo fans said that Halo 5 is 343's last chance to get it right and if they mess up again, they said that they're pretty much done with Halo.

Victory Element, I stopped taking you seriously when you said adapt. What you said is like saying "well the game is broken to oblivion, but you should accept it." Since when did me being a Halo fan mean that I have no right to voice my concern about the direction that Halo is headed. You clearly don't like it that me as well as others thinks that Halo 4 isn't all that good. I'm done arguing with you.

Well, basically if you don't adapt you can't really do anything but forget Halo. O.O Am I wrong?

[Xbox Fan]

Yes you are wrong Silent Orbis. Just because Call Of Duty uses those multiplayer gameplay features it doesn't mean that they'll work for Halo. I as well as many others don't want Call Of Duty features in Halo. They don't work and they don't belong. Haven't you and others realized by now why Halo's population has drastically dropped or are you still going to lie to yourselves and say that 343 did a good job? If you keep praising bad decision making, nothing is ever going to be done about it. The complainers are addressing issues that need to be dealt with, but the sheep keep blindly following bad ideas. The truth is they made a bad mistake putting things that didn't belong in Halo into the franchise. You don't believe me go look on Halo Waypoint, Team Beyond, and any other Halo website and you'll clearly see that most of the fans talk about why it was a bad idea to put in Sprint, Loadouts, Ordinance Drops, Instant Respawn, Armor Abilities, Perks, Flinch, Bloom, etc... and why them things need to be removed. There's also a voting poll for keeping them or removing them. Guess what, most people voted for them to be removed while a small percentage voted for them to stay. Does that convince you? Most fans want Halo to go back to the way that it used to be. People don't want Halo to be like any other game. If we want to play a game with Call Of Duty features, then we would play Call Of Duty. We didn't buy Halo just so we could play a COD-clone or a game trying to be Cod-like, we bought Halo so that we could play Halo. We don't need COD players playing Halo, we just need Halo players playing Halo. Before you and/or anyone else says "Call Of Duty is more popular and it makes more money," save it. That's not a reason for games to be something they're not. If Halo 5 is a return to Classic gameplay similar to Halo 2/3, we'll lose a lot of new players but we'll gain back the core audience and we might even gain some new players that are from other competitive games. Let's hope that this happens because the Halo franchise can't afford to make another huge mistake like Halo 4. Halo: Reach had a lot of problems with it, but not nearly as much as Halo 4 did.

[OMG Treason]

Going back to the old ways will give current gamers a bore. If you want to sell copies and get a playerbase you need new inovvative ideas and fun multiplayer. But at the core you should stray from what makes Halo, Halo which is the high skill cap and ability to dominate those who suck. But most people like games that are like COD its a fact. A sad fact but its how FPS games are supposed to be heading. Which sucks.

[Xbox Fan]

OMG Treason, do you have proof of what you said? If not then you're just making assumptions. As for you saying that Halo should stray from the core gameplay; seriously. I sure hope that you were kidding when you said that. Straying away from core gameplay is something that Halo can't afford to try anymore. If COD players don't like what Halo is, then they can do all of us true Halo fans a favor and leave. We don't want them in our game anyway.