Connor Kenway Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) Evening Debaters, it's here! Rules: 1.No Foul Language. 2.Team's will post their responses on different days. 3.A different Team member posts each time. The Topic: who would win in a fight between Master Chief (Team 2) and Samus (Team 1)? Team 2 will be starting. Edited February 28, 2015 by Wally West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shun 'Kanamee Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 I think Master Chief will win. Samus has her ball technique and lasers, but master chief was trained to endure laser blasts and is just as fast. He is also very resourceful, he will find a way to replace his useless Assault Rifle and get a plasma weapon which should be able to shred through Samus's armor. If Samus gets the lead, Master Chief will get hurt by the laser's force (not heat) and might be wounded, but he is fast and could strafe around towards her. In hand to hand combat, Master Chief is as strong as a Predator or Terminator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buns Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Team 1: 1. Ledgend1221 2. Twinreaper 3. Helix Ameli Team 2: 1. Frankenzer 2. Marxiel 3. The Director Judges: 1. Yoshi1176 2. Caboose the Ace 3. Pbrabbit Since Wally forgot to include this in his post and new members know this is a set debate. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Kenway Posted February 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Yeah so uh this is awkward... (sorry Twin your post won't count as Team 2 hasn't even posted yet lol) TEAM 2 IS STARTING They also have 24 hours to post their opening statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinreaper Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Can you delete my post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Director Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Can you delete my post? Why yes, yes I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinreaper Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Well since Team #2 has yet to post their opening statement within the 24 hour guidline, I will make Team #1's opening statement... Samus is hot. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadly Just AL Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Yo Samus Imma let you finish, but Master Chief was the best soldier of all time. Since we're talking dress up, y'all bring up solid facts about Samus's utilities, but here is where she falls short. Master Chief is a soldier, a SUPER-soldier even, and he has had the money from the wallets of Earth's banks, aristocrats, and middle class put into it, so it's doubtful that his equipment is exactly a half-arsed cosplay. But you don't need opinions, so we've brought cold, hard facts to the table. The Chief's external shell of armor is manufactured with durability in mind, hence the use of a titanium alloy as the basic protection without use of shield emitters, and can absorb a substantial amount of damage, varying on weaponry utilized. Underneath the primary shell, the body suit that covers most of John's body is more than your basic space-marine undershirt. Much like the exterior, the suit is synthesized with a similar titanium composition, but made more flexible to allow the wearer more mobility. It also acts against certain projectiles as well as keep the heat from plasma-based weaponry from fully compromising the wearer, very nifty for the Chief's line of work and trumps Samus's Zero Suit with it's defensive statistics. Underneath the suit, you have a coating of Hydrostatic Gel, it is added as a type of shock-absorber, to preserve the wearer from specific impacts, a factor that supplies the Chief with an upper hand in close quarters combat. Along with this, the Polymerized Lithium Nibocene Layer, one of the innermost layers, a crystallized compound that performs as a bonus sheet of muscle when electrically energized, adding to the Chief's already formidable strength. From the basic systems, the suit is outfitted with other pieces of cutting-edge technology. The helmet wields one of the most important pieces, something most refer to as the Heads Up Display. This aspect increases the accuracy of the wearer, assisting in pinpointing targets and telegraphing the opponent's movements with the motion-tracker, allowing for a more strategic combat. An average spartan can run the equipment with minimal friction, but when synergized with an Artificial Intelligence, it is a difficult combination to overcome. The inner padding of the suit supports said AI and allows it to view the soldiers vitals, especially to make use of the Biofoam Injectors if the wearer undergoes any deep or critical wounds, supplying as a temporary fix until a long-term solution can be found. With the AI, the soldier becomes a duo, with the primary human senses enhanced and paired up with a second person to supply extra assistance with reconnaissance of surroundings and even direction if needed. Since holsters were outdated and proved impractical at times, the magnetic strap system was implemented, making the Chief's current armaments easy to access without the hassle. If the projectile weaponry is not in the cards, the suit wielder's physical strength is amplified further by the Force-Multiplying Circuits, giving the wearer an unbelievable advantage in CQC. The Reactive Cicuits don't assist offensively, instead do wonders defensively, granting intensified reflexes to avoid having damage inflicted to the Chief. Fairly self-explanatory. That is not the average suit you can find at your local tailor, and is most definitely the prosperous outfit if going toe to toe with Samus. Her Power Suit may be formidable, though by the information we have seen, she is not capable of obtaining victory. Samus's suit does not meet the standards nor the technological superiority that the Chief is in possession of, especially in close quarters, where a SPARTAN-II is second to almost none. Weaponry-wise, the Master Chief has a wide selection, while Samus is granted the basic energy cannon that is much more difficult to aim with, let alone hit with, due to its slow moving projectiles. The power beam is not a major concern, as the Chief is more than capable of avoiding the projectiles, excluding few technicalities and oddball situations. Summing it up, the super-soldier will take the gold over the bounty hunter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinreaper Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Let me first start off by stating that you did indeed lay out a very nice speech with SOME facts. But in regards to the "Technological Superiority" Chief has...that is plain false. Chief's technology is one of basic Forerunner/Human design. Allow me to explain what Samus has to work with, and you will see your false claims. Samus Aran, though her body human born, has been enhanced with cybernetic components and the DNA of Metroids and Chozo; the culture who's technological prowess reached a point of "no longer being able to advance". Meaning that they had basically exhausted all methods of creating more advanced technology of their own. Samas through her advancements has broken every human limitation and comes in at a towering 6'3 at 198lbs. For a simple woman...that is big. Samus' training was rigorous even more so than master Chiefs. her training began at age 4 and ended at age 13-14. Her training grounds were not simple human constructed simulations, or already known worlds. No...her training was in the art of hunting, and incorporated training to defend and assault countless thousands of known alien species. This training lead to her joining the Galactic Federation Police, where she received more training. In terms of combat efficiency, Samus is more prepared, better trained and can handle more species of enemy than Master Chief and or The Forerunners. Her natural abilities is not her most deadly asset though. Her Power Suit is of unknown material but was built by the Chozo. The Power Suit bonds to the wearer at a biological level, making this suit's response time to the wearer instantaneous and natural. The suit also boasts a nearly 99% coverage rate of the wearer, leaving only extremely small openings in the joint area around the upper thigh. This 360 degree of protection is far more armor than any Spartan is granted. On top of the amazing flexibility and mobility the suit provides, it also has the ability to incorporate any technology regardless of design. Tell me having a suit that can mimic or enhance itself with abilities and design from any enemy...isn't the superior suit. Her suit also boasts a near infinite survival rate in space and deep water. And according to her training, the suit can also withstand countless worlds and environments regardless of nature or design. Abnormal gravity? no problem. Super heated or super cooled atmosphere? No worries. Samus can survive anywhere without the need to equip additional technology, where as the Spartans, require a different armor configuration or add-on to current suits in use. Weapons? Who needs weapons when you have an Arm Cannon! The Arm Cannon is capable of being configured instantaneously to an array of energy based projectiles as well as ballistics. The Arm Cannon has unlimited ammunition as it draws its power directly from the wearer on a bio-electrical level, in which the weapon then amplifies it's energy to create the projectiles. Full list of weapons or abilities of the Arm Cannon -Charge Beam - Ice Beam - Wave Beam - Phazon Beam - Diffusion Beam - Dark beam - Light Beam - Grappling Hook - Missle launcher I could go on for another 12-15 variants. Point is, when it comes to weapons, Samus has ANY Spartan beat. Any weapon a Spartan can carry, Samus has an exact "like" weapon to counter it, and can switch between 1-almost 34 types instantaneously. No need to carry around silly equipment. As for AI, AI has no bearing on this debate as AI is a separate being and this debate is strictly between Chief and Samus. Now lets talk about a few other things that help Samus claim superiority above all others in the Universe. She has a boosting ability that allows her to reach top mach speeds on foot in under 3 seconds. She also has the assistance of a Morph Ball ability that allows her to quickly enter, exit or otherwise take advantage of terrain and obstacles that normal species could not. With the help of the Jump ability, she can jump a second time in mid air, increasing her range. She can also use this ability to infinitely stay afloat in a spinning rotational manner, using her shields as a method of attacking know as Screw Jumping. Sounds funny yes...but more deadly than anything. Shields are a whole nother story. Since nothing is documented about her shields, it is a safe logical assumption that her shielding follows the same principles as the Spartan's, due to the fact that the Chozo designed it. All in all, Samus could claim victory very quickly over her inferior male counterpart. Samus is quicker, deadlier and trained in more various ways to hunt and take down prey than a Spartan, who was trained only to take down humans and 6 species of Covenant. Samus wins easily. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Kenway Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 PART 1 COMPLETE JUDGES TO YOUR POSITIONS (still need to do a PM with you guys) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Kenway Posted March 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 SCORES FOR PART 1 ARE IN. PART 2 WILL NOW START TEAM 1 IS STARTING, REMEMBER TO HAVE A DIFFERENT TEAM MEMBER DO THE POST (SPARKY AND TWINREAPER CAN NOT DO THE POST) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose The Ace Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Is this thing still going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Kenway Posted March 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 well we're waiting on Team 1 who aren't even paying attention and TD has left :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Composite Armour Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 well we're waiting on Team 1 who aren't even paying attention and TD has left :/ We are paying attention, we're just waiting on Helix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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