Just found out Halo 4 has loadouts.

[Drakell]

So I just found out that the game will be becoming more like CoD and less like Halo. Loadouts... Are you kidding me? AND a point system to unlock better gear?!?!?

 

Sorry, that just killed the game for me.

 

Will NOT buy.

[The Director]

So I just found out that the game will be becoming more like CoD and less like Halo. Loadouts... Are you kidding me? AND a point system to unlock better gear?!?!?

 

Sorry, that just killed the game for me.

 

Will NOT buy.

^ Not a Halo fan.

[Drakell]

^ Not a Halo fan.

 

Wrong. I'm just not mindless. The game is so far past what halo was originally you can barely call it that anymore. I'm not going to buy a game just because they label it as halo. As a halo 2 pro gamer, I can assure you that I'm a big halo fan.

 

Please make an intelligent post instead of making 1 quick comment to try and what?... raise your post count?

[The Director]

Wrong. I'm just not mindless. The game is so far past what halo was originally you can barely call it that anymore.

I'm sorry, was I not clear? The fact that you didn't realize that the load-outs obviously won't work the same way in Halo 4 as they do in CoD, the fact that you didn't do enough research to know that the load-outs aren't in every aspect of multiplayer, the fact that you've decided that you are going to turn your back on a franchise that has been pretty good to it's fans for over 10 years, and the fact that you've made up your mind not to even give it a chance over 6 months before it's released means that you, kind sir, are NOT a Halo fan.

 

Do you want me to explain to you how the load-outs are different from CoD? First off, you can only select "normal" weapons (DMR, AR, Pistol, BR) as your starter weapons, rather than being able to choose shotguns and Rocket Launchers like in CoD. Secondly, the load-outs will not appear in every game mode. Thirdly, you don't have to unlock absolutely everything in the load-outs like you do with CoD. The info on what will be unlockable is still secretive, but it's been revealed that the primary and starter weapons are already unlocked, and it's most likely going to be Armor Abilities that are unlockable.

 

So you see? Halo 4 isn't going to be as similar to CoD as you thought. What are the load-outs for, you ask? You know how everyone wanted DMR starts for certain maps and AR starts for others, and when they changed it to DMR/AR starts people complained about there being no pistol? Well, now instead of starting with a decent starter weapon, you get to pick which starter weapon you want. You can choose any of the "basic" weapons, which are weapons that are not considered power weapons.

 

 

Wrong. I'm just not mindless. The game is so far past what halo was originally you can barely call it that anymore. I'm not going to buy a game just because they label it as halo. As a halo 2 pro gamer, I can assure you that I'm a big halo fan.

 

Please make an intelligent post instead of making 1 quick comment to try and what?... raise your post count?

How's that for an intelligent post?

[Absolute Dog]

^ Not a Halo fan.

What is this BS? Someone does not like what they here about Halo 4 and you state they are not a halo fan?

[Drakell]

I'm sorry, was I not clear? The fact that you didn't realize that the load-outs obviously won't work the same way in Halo 4 as they do in CoD, the fact that you didn't do enough research to know that the load-outs aren't in every aspect of multiplayer, the fact that you've decided that you are going to turn your back on a franchise that has been pretty good to it's fans for over 10 years, and the fact that you've made up your mind not to even give it a chance over 6 months before it's released means that you, kind sir, are NOT a Halo fan.

 

Do you want me to explain to you how the load-outs are different from CoD? First off, you can only select "normal" weapons (DMR, AR, Pistol, BR) as your starter weapons, rather than being able to choose shotguns and Rocket Launchers like in CoD. Secondly, the load-outs will not appear in every game mode. Thirdly, you don't have to unlock absolutely everything in the load-outs like you do with CoD. The info on what will be unlockable is still secretive, but it's most likely going to be Armor Abilities.

 

So you see? Halo 4 isn't going to be as similar to CoD as you thought. What are the load-outs for, you ask? You know how everyone wanted DMR starts for certain maps and AR starts for others, and when they changed it to DMR/AR starts people complained about there being no pistol? Well, now instead of starting with a decent starter weapon, you get to pick which starter weapon you want. You can choose any of the "basic" weapons, which are weapons that are not considered power weapons.

 

 

How's that for an intelligent post?

 

Still pretty unintelligent honestly. I never said they were the same as CoD. Guess you didn't read my post correctly. I said it was becoming more like CoD, which it is because of the loadouts. Also, I do know that it isn't like that for all game modes obviously.

 

Lastly, the whole point of halo is starting off on even footing and proving that through the right gameplay you can get the power weapons. Through superior skill. Not because of weapon choice before the match. It's just moving too far away from what halo was meant to be.

[The Director]

What is this BS? Someone does not like what they here about Halo 4 and you state they are not a halo fan?

You're right AD, I'm just tired of seeing people judge a book by it's cover before it's even finished is all. My apologies to Drakell for that.

 

 

Still pretty unintelligent honestly. I never said they were the same as CoD. Guess you didn't read my post correctly. I said it was becoming more like CoD, which it is because of the loadouts. Also, I do know that it isn't like that for all game modes obviously.

 

Lastly, the whole point of halo is starting off on even footing and proving that through the right gameplay you can get the power weapons. Through superior skill. Not because of weapon choice before the match. It's just moving too far away from what halo was meant to be.

Halo is meant to be a video game. Video games evolve. Stuff get's added to them, other stuff gets taken away. Drastic changes have always been apart of Halo. Halo CE to Halo 2, you had vehicles being destroyed, vehicle boarding, new weapons, older weapons being changed, and all sorts of things. Even new armor. Halo 2 to Halo 3 also changed quite a bit. Halo 3 to Halo Reach changed even more drastically than Halo CE to Halo 2. Halo is all about change. It's what will be new in the next game. If it DIDN'T change at all, then it would be more like CoD than if it added loadouts and whatnot.

 

The main point here is that change is as much a part of Halo as a Warthog. And you don't know how good it will be until you play it. That IS fact.

[Panda]

Still pretty unintelligent honestly. I never said they were the same as CoD. Guess you didn't read my post correctly. I said it was becoming more like CoD, which it is because of the loadouts. Also, I do know that it isn't like that for all game modes obviously.

 

Lastly, the whole point of halo is starting off on even footing and proving that through the right gameplay you can get the power weapons. Through superior skill. Not because of weapon choice before the match. It's just moving too far away from what halo was meant to be.

I disagree with you here. To say that it's "becoming CoD" because a mechanic that is present in Halo is also present in another FPS is over the top. The reason The Director claimed you weren't a Halo fan is because you're writing off a game just based on the fact it has loadouts.

[Baby Boo]

Let me clear this up, as I see OP doesnt have the first clue about how exactly these custom loadouts will work.

 

Primary weapons, will be a choice out of I think 3 weapons: The DMR, the BR, and lastly the AR. As you are aware of, some people prefer one weapon to the other, and like fighting at different ranges. For example: for a player that prefers to fight at long distances, they would choose the most viable option for that range: the

DMR. For a player that prefers to fight at mid

range, without getting to far or up close and

personal: The BR is their man. Lastly, for a

player that is a bit more daring and reckless,

and likes fighting in close quarters, they will

certainly choose the AR. This way, custom

loadouts will actually benefit each player to their

comfortability.

 

Secondary weapons: Now this, I am not entirely sure of. But of this I am nearly positive: they will not allow any explosive ordnance. Power weapons like shotgun, sniper, and the sword, and so on, I believe will not be accepted as well. I assume there will possibly sidearms, maybe some plasma weapons like the plasma rifle maybe. It all depends on what they allow, and ultimately, what suits the player best.

 

I hope this helped clear up your misconception on this particular topic. I do hope you reconsider your decision of not buying the game, just because of this aspect.

[Drakell]

Let me clear this up, as I see OP doesnt have the first clue about how exactly these custom loadouts will work.

 

Primary weapons, will be a choice out of I think 3 weapons: The DMR, the BR, and lastly the AR. As you are aware of, some people prefer one weapon to the other, and like fighting at different ranges. For example: for a player that prefers to fight at long distances, they would choose the most viable option for that range: the

DMR. For a player that prefers to fight at mid

range, without getting to far or up close and

personal: The BR is their man. Lastly, for a

player that is a bit more daring and reckless,

and likes fighting in close quarters, they will

certainly choose the AR. This way, custom

loadouts will actually benefit each player to their

comfortability.

 

Secondary weapons: Now this, I am not entirely sure of. But of this I am nearly positive: they will not allow any explosive ordnance. Power weapons like shotgun, sniper, and the sword, and so on, I believe will not be accepted as well. I assume there will possibly sidearms, maybe some plasma weapons like the plasma rifle maybe. It all depends on what they allow, and ultimately, what suits the player best.

 

I hope this helped clear up your misconception on this particular topic. I do hope you reconsider your decision of not buying the game, just because of this aspect.

 

Let me be perfectly clear here because even though I've said it prior to this I'll say it again. I know how the loadouts work. But thanks again for assuming I'm some sort of idiot. I have the first clue about how the plan to make them work and every other clue.

 

You people all think the same way. Because I don't like it means that I must not know how it works. Let me tell you. I know how it works and I hate the very idea of it.

 

Clear enough for everyone?

[Baby Boo]

I never intended to imply you as an idiot. I intended to convince you that this will be a benefit; not a downfall. We do not know exactly how it will work, but we assume it is for the better. I do not see what is so wrong about IMPROVING gameplay by providing the preferred weapon. I fail to see your point.

[Drakell]

I disagree with you here. To say that it's "becoming CoD" because a mechanic that is present in Halo is also present in another FPS is over the top. The reason The Director claimed you weren't a Halo fan is because you're writing off a game just based on the fact it has loadouts.

 

Please don't put words in my mouth. I hate it when people do this. I chose my words carefully so that they aren't misinterpreted and what do you do? You misquote me so that it means whatever you want it to mean.

 

I said that the game was becoming more like CoD. I didn't say it was becoming CoD. The first statement is a fact, the second is an opinion.

[Drakell]

I never intended to imply you as an idiot. I intended to convince you that this will be a benefit; not a downfall. We do not know exactly how it will work, but we assume it is for the better.

 

Well the first thing you said was pretty condescending.

[Baby Boo]

And where do you think cod got "their" ideas for add ons like theater mode? Hmm, let me think for a long hard couple minutes while I watch my previous recorded game. Oh yes, that's right, HALO. And you don't see cod fans complaining that they are becoming more like halo, do you?

[Baby Boo]

 

 

Well the first thing you said was pretty condescending.

 

 

 

Yes, that was a misconception. I'm sorry for that remark.

[BigMartin58]

Let me be perfectly clear here because even though I've said it prior to this I'll say it again. I know how the loadouts work. But thanks again for assuming I'm some sort of idiot. I have the first clue about how the plan to make them work and every other clue.

 

You people all think the same way. Because I don't like it means that I must not know how it works. Let me tell you. I know how it works and I hate the very idea of it.

 

Clear enough for everyone?

 

Yeah but the reason you're hating on Halo is the sole thing that makes Halo Halo... You're hating on the fact that it is changing... If Halo stayed the same every single game, then THAT would make it becoming more like COD... Its evolution is what has made it Halo... Things WILL change. IT IS INEVITABLE!!! Just because it has loadouts doesn't mean that it is becoming more like COD, it means that it is improving/ changing... The sole reason I dislike COD is because it is the exact SAME FRICKIN THING every year... You judgement on Halo becoming like COD is invalid... Ok, so you still may not like halo anymore... But it's not because it is becoming like COD, it is because it is changing... And THAT is the truth my, dear friend...

[Drakell]

And where do you think cod got "their" ideas for add ons like theater mode? Hmm, let me think for a long hard couple minutes while I watch my previous recorded game. Oh yes, that's right, HALO. And you don't see cod fans complaining that they are becoming more like halo, do you?

 

That's because theater is a great idea that DOESN'T AFFECT GAMEPLAY. See the difference here? If halo had clan tags to add and backgrounds and emblems that you could customize I wouldn't complain. This is a gameplay change.

[CandiBunni]

You're saying it's becoming more like Call of Duty, yet you've read how they plan to have it work. Yes loadouts are something that Call of Duty uses, but also something that a lot of other FPSs and even TPSs use. Why is it that only Call of Duty is singled out for this comparison? Why is it that Call of Duty is always the game used for these comparisons?From how they plan to make the loadouts function, I don't see the issue here. They have said power weapons won't be selectable, and what will likely happen is that we will have choices like the Assault Rifle, Battle Rifle, DMR, Magnum, etc. Those types of weapons are probably what we can expect to be choices. Now since power weapons won't be options, only weapons like those I listed above, what is the issue? If these weapons and others will still be placed upon the map and will spawn like they have in previous Halo games, what is the issue here? You will still be capable of moving around and picking them up. I see no problem with someone choosing an AR over a BR, or a BR over an AR. If that is the weapon that better suits their playstyle and the weapons are balanced well with one another, there isn't really any issue as far as I am concerned. Simply having a feature that resembles something that Call of Duty or any other game uses does not automatically make that feature a terrible one. They have shown that they are not going to simply copy and paste features from one series into Halo 4 without balancing it and making sure that it fits in with the Halo Universe and style. How they are handling loadouts is a good example of this.

 

The gameplay of the Halo series is not and should not remain the same. If you want Halo to last another 10 years, it's going to have to go through some changes to keep it fresh and fun for not only old fans but in order to bring in new ones as well. If Halo's gameplay were to remain the same or did not see any real changes to the formula, that would definitely kill it. People will grow tired of playing the same game over and over and over again. Even the most die hard of Halo fans would soon tire of playing with the same mechanics and same gameplay elements without anything new to spice it up. There hasn't been all that much change between games like Halo 2 and Halo 3. Halo: Reach actually tried to change the traditional Halo formula up a little and people went ballistic over it.

[Drakell]

Yeah but the reason you're hating on Halo is the sole thing that makes Halo Halo... You're hating on the fact that it is changing... If Halo stayed the same every single game, then THAT would make it becoming COD... Its evolution is what has made it Halo... Things WILL change. IT IS INEVITABLE!!! Just because it has loadouts doesn't mean that it is becoming COD, it means that it is improving/ changing... The sole reason I dislike COD is because it is the exact SAME FRICKIN THING every year... You judgement on Halo becoming like COD is invalid... Ok, so you still may not like halo anymore... But it's not because it is becoming like COD, it is because it is changing... And THAT is the truth my, dear friend...

 

 

I liked it fine until reach. Change is fine. The game changed a lot from 1-3 and I loved all of those games. But there needs to be a point where you draw the line.

[Baby Boo]

Exactly. I've heard it said a couple times. Halo changes. Halo changes continuously. Without change, halo just simply isn't... Halo. If you cannot deal with change, then so be it. Want something that doesn't change, go play cod.

[Panda]

Please don't put words in my mouth. I hate it when people do this. I chose my words carefully so that they aren't misinterpreted and what do you do? You misquote me so that it means whatever you want it to mean.

 

I said that the game was becoming more like CoD. I didn't say it was becoming CoD. The first statement is a fact, the second is an opinion.

How is saying "it's becoming more like CoD" not the same as "it is becoming CoD"? And actually they are both maters of opinion not fact.

[NASTUSIA]

I think we all know your going to buy it.

[TheGruntMeister]

when i read stuff like this i immediatly read everyones comments and decide whether it is worth me making some sort of snappy retort this is simply not worth the time it would take to do so BUT i have read every1s thoughts on this and i simply cant add anything theyve already said everything that could b said

[n0vast0rm]

Loadouts... Are you kidding me? AND a point system to unlock better gear?!?!?

 

Sorry, that just killed the game for me.

 

Will NOT buy.

the whole point of halo is starting off on even footing and proving that through the right gameplay you can get the power weapons. Through superior skill. Not because of weapon choice before the match. It's just moving too far away from what halo was meant to be.

If halo had clan tags to add and backgrounds and emblems that you could customize I wouldn't complain. This is a gameplay change.

 

So the whole point of HALO is online?

 

Have to agree with the people who say you're not a HALO fan.

[BLiX]

I think that this will be very cool in halo 4