raw_hates_you Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 In my eyes a perfect ranking system is a ranking system where EVERY game you play is competetive and never feels to one sided. Unfortunately the way reach is that is the exact opposite of what is happening. If you search in a team of 4 players 90% of the time you demolish the other team while barely putting any effort in. On the other hand if you search alone you play against a team of 4 or 3 that has teamwork and are on a same general skill level as each other, great for their team, not for yours. Every game i search alone i get matched with xxkittenkiller32xx or some random kid who is entering a playlist or halo in general for the first time without a mic and no awareness at all, making it near impossible to win a game with their 1kill and 25deaths. That being said what i want out of halo 4 is a ranking system that seperates you completely from players of different skill levels so that if you feel like playing alone, you can. Sample Ranking system 4 divisions each with a numerical value that displays your progression through those divisions. Division A , B, C, D whatever you want to title it has ranks 1-25 ....1 and division A being the lowest, 25 and division D being the highest. Players in the A division play against and ONLY against players in the A division or lower if they are searching against a t04 (see bottom of post for example). the numerical rank of yourself vs the opposing players numerical ranks should influence what % of a level you go up and down in order to insure you are only ranking up fast if you beat players who SHOULD be more skilled than your current rank shows. Example : a 7A goes up against a team with an average level of 16A, the player wins and should be awarded a certain % of level based on how much higher or lower their opponents average was. This will help ensure that a player doesn't just get lucky and move up through a division fast because he kept playing with people on the lowest portion of that division. Now to the whole searching alone or searching with a team problem. If searching in a team of 2 you should be matched with a team of 2 on your team and 2 teams of 2 on the other team, if you search in 3s it should be 2 teams of 3 and 1 random person added in on each team with a rank close to that of your groups. if searching 4s well you should only match vs other teams of 4 because it is the only way to ensure a close competitive game. a problem i can see with this is that players in a higher division match up with a friend in a lower division or on a newer account to play worse players, this can be solved simply by only factoring the players who are in the highest bracket. Example : a team of 4 searches and their ranks are D20 D19 D25 and their friend is a B12 ONLY the players in D division should count towards the teams average skill and only search for teams that are equal to those players only. This will help make sure that players cant manipulate the system to play lower ranked kids for whatever the reason may be. This to me would be the ideal ranking system, please leave constructive feedback in the posts below and tell me what you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rentless Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 awesome concept, Halo 4, really needs to do something similar to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carts Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 Halo alread used a system where if you are rank 30, it'll search for anyone +/- 3 levels of you, if not enough players are found, then the span grows to +/- 5 and so on. And I notice in reach I rarely get matched against full teams if alone and the opposite if im in a group. There is always exceptions due to number of good connection matches available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raw_hates_you Posted May 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 Halo alread used a system where if you are rank 30, it'll search for anyone +/- 3 levels of you, if not enough players are found, then the span grows to +/- 5 and so on. And I notice in reach I rarely get matched against full teams if alone and the opposite if im in a group. There is always exceptions due to number of good connection matches available. did you even read it? i never talked once about expanding the search filters after a set amount of time and do you play reach? if you search alone 9/10 times you play a to3 or to4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarchy Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 Halo alread used a system where if you are rank 30, it'll search for anyone +/- 3 levels of you, if not enough players are found, then the span grows to +/- 5 and so on. And I notice in reach I rarely get matched against full teams if alone and the opposite if im in a group. There is always exceptions due to number of good connection matches available. I agree, it used to get to the point where it was +/- 15 it was annoying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt S-501 Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 I think this is an awesome concept. The only flaw i see is if the population isn't huge then you could get paired with say the same person in division a with 4 people they could just play eachother over and over again. besides that i think this could totally work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raw_hates_you Posted May 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 I think this is an awesome concept. The only flaw i see is if the population isn't huge then you could get paired with say the same person in division a with 4 people they could just play eachother over and over again. besides that i think this could totally work. yeah if the numbers turn out like reach's ...... for example 300-1000 people in mlg at any given time finding a mlg game with a t04 in the top bracket would be kinda hard. lets just hope h4 isnt a complete failure if so then maybe 2 brackets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorB77 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Cool idea. But I have a feeling that I would be waiting there for a long time in the lobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upton889 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 As long as 343 has a ranked system based on winning then I'm fine. I think you have a great idea man. It's not too different from the 1-50 ranking system but has just enough tweaks in it to be refreshingly different. Well done bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer K34 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 yeah if the numbers turn out like reach's ...... for example 300-1000 people in mlg at any given time finding a mlg game with a t04 in the top bracket would be kinda hard. lets just hope h4 isnt a complete failure if so then maybe 2 brackets if you have the additude that halo is going to be a complete failure then it probably will in your eyes, so look forward to it in a positive manner. im sure that these employees working lots of late nights away from their family have thought about this and how to improve the last matchmaking systems, and frankly have thought about it alot more then you are. not trying to be mean here just saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlySniper19 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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